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> If not, expect lower levels of safety. Citations. Have you ever been to Portland or do you just believe Trump? There were few (not many) Trump flags in Port

> If not, expect lower levels of safety. Citations. Have you ever been to Portland or do you just believe Trump? There were few (not many) Trump flags in Portland during the election and I don’t recall a single person being hurt for it.

IAmGraydon 1y ago
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- SilverElfin 1y ago
  > The guy you’re replying to is not worth your time. His comment history shows that he speaks in the kind of short, reductionist tropes that evidence the fact that his prefrontal cortex has been melted by exposure to propaganda. People like this are scared of the world around them and operate on fear, which is followed by hate as a defense mechanism. I admire you for engaging, but you can’t change these unfortunate people. Just be glad you aren’t one. Your entire comment is inappropriate for HN. People have different experiences from you. What they have seen or experienced may not be captured in “citations”. You can choose to not believe it. But when you dismiss it as propaganda, you are not being curious. And when you engage in an insulting personal attack, you’re violating the guidelines.
  - IAmGraydon 1y ago
    I think I’m past being curious about the kind of person that makes claims like it’s dangerous for a person with right-leaning political alignment to walk through Portland. What is there to be curious about at this point? We’ve all seen this kind of rhetoric and it’s simply parroted propaganda from their dear leader, as is 90% of his comment history. I respect your right to be diplomatic, but I think more people need to be realistic at this point. As for the guidelines, this entire thread violates them. Directly from the guidelines: >Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
    - McAlpine5892 1y ago
      > I think I’m past being curious about the kind of person that makes claims like it’s dangerous for a person with right-leaning political alignment to walk through Portland Please, please continue to be curious. I feel you. Every day I find myself throwing in the towel on "those people". I use "us vs. them" language far more than I should. My instincts say to give up. It's a fight that maybe I'm losing, but if we stop trying to understand then the remaining options on the table are considerably worse. Just look at Daryl Davis'[0] success in convincing Klansmen to denounce the KKK. The man is an absolute hero and had major cojones for what he did. I truly can't fathom the guts it took for him to do that. I'm white and it would scare me. Few people are beyond being reached. MAGA is fueled by fear (and anger). We need to dismantle the fear and redirect the anger. Fear leads to brain-rot. Anger can sometimes be justified and a powerful ally when pointed in the right direction. I have no implementation ideas that are worth discussing though. That being said. Despite the above ramblings, I have given up on some people. And it feels bad. Disconnecting from each other can only escalate further. All to say, I feel you and I feel your position. But please do your best to not throw in the towel, even though it is so appealing in our current climate. --- [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis

IAmGraydon 1y ago

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SilverElfin 1y ago
> The guy you’re replying to is not worth your time. His comment history shows that he speaks in the kind of short, reductionist tropes that evidence the fact that his prefrontal cortex has been melted by exposure to propaganda. People like this are scared of the world around them and operate on fear, which is followed by hate as a defense mechanism. I admire you for engaging, but you can’t change these unfortunate people. Just be glad you aren’t one. Your entire comment is inappropriate for HN. People have different experiences from you. What they have seen or experienced may not be captured in “citations”. You can choose to not believe it. But when you dismiss it as propaganda, you are not being curious. And when you engage in an insulting personal attack, you’re violating the guidelines.
- IAmGraydon 1y ago
  I think I’m past being curious about the kind of person that makes claims like it’s dangerous for a person with right-leaning political alignment to walk through Portland. What is there to be curious about at this point? We’ve all seen this kind of rhetoric and it’s simply parroted propaganda from their dear leader, as is 90% of his comment history. I respect your right to be diplomatic, but I think more people need to be realistic at this point. As for the guidelines, this entire thread violates them. Directly from the guidelines: >Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
  - McAlpine5892 1y ago
    > I think I’m past being curious about the kind of person that makes claims like it’s dangerous for a person with right-leaning political alignment to walk through Portland Please, please continue to be curious. I feel you. Every day I find myself throwing in the towel on "those people". I use "us vs. them" language far more than I should. My instincts say to give up. It's a fight that maybe I'm losing, but if we stop trying to understand then the remaining options on the table are considerably worse. Just look at Daryl Davis'[0] success in convincing Klansmen to denounce the KKK. The man is an absolute hero and had major cojones for what he did. I truly can't fathom the guts it took for him to do that. I'm white and it would scare me. Few people are beyond being reached. MAGA is fueled by fear (and anger). We need to dismantle the fear and redirect the anger. Fear leads to brain-rot. Anger can sometimes be justified and a powerful ally when pointed in the right direction. I have no implementation ideas that are worth discussing though. That being said. Despite the above ramblings, I have given up on some people. And it feels bad. Disconnecting from each other can only escalate further. All to say, I feel you and I feel your position. But please do your best to not throw in the towel, even though it is so appealing in our current climate. --- [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis