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'No Way To Prevent This', says only OS where this regularly happens.

anonymars 1y ago
Where what regularly happens? Wrong code coincidentally works and then doesn't? Which other OSes bend over backwards to the degree that Windows does in order to keep incorrect code working?
detaro 1y ago
Which other OSes prevent this consistently?
- mherkender 1y ago
  Open-source Linux is great at updating old software. Most other OSes (Android, MacOS, iOS, game consoles) rely on versioning, which makes it easier to provide compatibility layers or at least know when a piece of software just isn't supported anymore. Personally I think Windows should have specialized VMs for old software, so they can be compatible forever even if they have bugs.
  - detaro 1y ago
    So other OSes prevent this by not even trying to run old software? Yeah, not particularly helpful
    - mherkender 1y ago
      Better to have a strategy for software compatibility and evolution vs Microsoft's strategy of doing nothing. Pretty much every game console ever made still works with every game for that console, but when it's Windows you never know.
      - jobigoud 1y ago
        > Microsoft's strategy of doing nothing. Microsoft strategy is to maintain backward compatibility as much as possible.
        mherkender 1y ago
        Don't let old software break, don't use VMs/containers, don't use versioning: Pick two Microsoft is the only company to pick all three. That's not strategy, that's indifference.
pjmlp 1y ago
And yet Valve has to translate Windows APIs if they want to have games, because not even the studios targeting Android/Linux care about GNU/Linux, in spite NDK having the same audio and 3D APIs available as C and C++ libraries. All because game developers prefer to target this OS full or warts than dealing with GNU/Linux fragmentation.
- mherkender 1y ago
  Windows is roughly 25% of the gaming market and I don't know why you're bringing up Linux. I haven't ever had a console unable to play a game built for it, just Windows.
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    Because HN is all about SteamDeck when complaining about Windows.

Where what regularly happens? Wrong code coincidentally works and then doesn't? Which other OSes bend over backwards to the degree that Windows does in order to keep incorrect code working?

detaro 1y ago

Which other OSes prevent this consistently?

mherkender 1y ago
Open-source Linux is great at updating old software. Most other OSes (Android, MacOS, iOS, game consoles) rely on versioning, which makes it easier to provide compatibility layers or at least know when a piece of software just isn't supported anymore. Personally I think Windows should have specialized VMs for old software, so they can be compatible forever even if they have bugs.
- detaro 1y ago
  So other OSes prevent this by not even trying to run old software? Yeah, not particularly helpful
  - mherkender 1y ago
    Better to have a strategy for software compatibility and evolution vs Microsoft's strategy of doing nothing. Pretty much every game console ever made still works with every game for that console, but when it's Windows you never know.
    - jobigoud 1y ago
      > Microsoft's strategy of doing nothing. Microsoft strategy is to maintain backward compatibility as much as possible.
      - mherkender 1y ago
        Don't let old software break, don't use VMs/containers, don't use versioning: Pick two Microsoft is the only company to pick all three. That's not strategy, that's indifference.

pjmlp 1y ago

And yet Valve has to translate Windows APIs if they want to have games, because not even the studios targeting Android/Linux care about GNU/Linux, in spite NDK having the same audio and 3D APIs available as C and C++ libraries. All because game developers prefer to target this OS full or warts than dealing with GNU/Linux fragmentation.

mherkender 1y ago
Windows is roughly 25% of the gaming market and I don't know why you're bringing up Linux. I haven't ever had a console unable to play a game built for it, just Windows.
- pjmlp 1y ago
  Because HN is all about SteamDeck when complaining about Windows.