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Did something happen in 2023 that makes it _less_ relevant for Israel to try to prevent terrorist activity?
by Aarostotle 1y ago
Did something happen in 2023 that makes it _less_ relevant for Israel to try to prevent terrorist activity?
- kelipso 1y ago[flagged]
- dotancohen 1y ago[flagged]
- fahhem 1y agoSame bogus website used earlier. Please don't copy pasta bad hasbara
- dotancohen 1y ago[flagged]
- SilverElfin 1y agoDismissing something as a “bogus website” or attacking the source isn’t an argument. It’s a logical fallacy.
- fahhem 1y agoIt was debunked in another comment so I didn't copy paste the debunking, sorry
- fortran77 1y ago[flagged]
- kelipso 1y agoYou’re the one openly promoting genocide.
- meowface 1y agoIsrael has a legitimate reason to want to try to intercept and detect terrorist activity, but given what they've been doing in Gaza for the past year and a half, they simply can't be trusted. They've lost all credibility and benefit of the doubt. So they can't expect other entities to help them do something they say is legitimate, because no one can trust them to do something in a legitimate and ethical way.
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoI think OP’s point is Israel’s legitimate surveillance needs have risen alongside their credibility crashing. This isn’t a simply reduced problem unless one has a horse in the race.
- meowface 1y agoI understand that, and I am sympathetic to those needs to some degree. They do have increased legitimate surveillance needs. But they've lost all of their good will. Partnering with them is too morally and PR-ily hazardous. I am not saying Israel is nearly as bad as Nazi Germany, but I think this argument is overall kind of pointless because one could easily have said that Nazi Germany had greatly increased legitimate surveillance needs after they invaded Poland.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> one could easily have said that Nazi Germany had greatly increased legitimate surveillance needs after they invaded Poland This is an interesting comparison—thank you. That said, did the Poles launch cross-border attacks on German civilians? The closest I can come up with is Bloody Sunday [1], which was an attack on ethnically German civilians, but not a cross-border incursion. (Granted, we can only observe this ex post facto, so your argument still stands.) [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1939) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1939)
- DaveExeter 1y ago