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Knife crime statistics seem to suggest otherwise. It is nice, until it is not.

by zaruvi 1y ago

edent 1y ago
Knife crime is down 19% in London this year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62nqvzzq79o https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62nqvzzq79o And still fewer stabbings per-capita than NYC.
- AOE9 1y ago
  It only matters in comparison to the rest of the UK, you don't know how they are collected/recorded differently across countries.
  - edent 1y ago
    London has a lower knife crime rate than the West Midlands. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/ https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04... Hope that helps!
    - AOE9 1y ago
      Interesting it says knife crime for 23/24 was up 16% for London. I wonder if they only record convictions so the 19% decrease will change as people are convicted. Also West Midlands is that not Biringham etc? Is that not one of the other mostly non-white places in the UK? You could have pointed to number 3 on the list Cleveland being mostly white(95%+ I think) and not being much lower than London.
      - edent 1y ago
        It's almost like crime isn't that strongly correlated with the ethnic mix of a place! I'm sorry reality doesn't support your racism. Of course, if you don't believe the police data, that page suggests you look at hospital admissions. Again, as I said, London is lovely. You said there was a problem with knife crime. I pointed out that London is lower than a comparable major US city. It's also lower than several areas in the UK. Come and visit - don't believe the lies being spread.
        AOE9 1y ago
        > It's almost like crime isn't that strongly correlated with the ethnic mix of a place! I'm sorry reality doesn't support your racism. How is what I said racist? I was agreeing with you but saying London being #2 and pointing to #1 is not really proving your point. You should point to #3 to make your point. > I pointed out that London is lower than a comparable major US city. Again, you can not compare across countries you don't know the difference in how the data is recorded. For example is a murder not recorded in the USA for every suspious death where as the UK it is for every murder conviction? > It's also lower than several areas in the UK. It is #2 on that 23/24 list. > Come and visit - don't believe the lies being spread. I lived on London's outskirts for multiple years and have to visit multiple times a year. I wouldn't describe it as great, I dread going everytime.

Knife crime statistics seem to suggest otherwise. It is nice, until it is not.

by zaruvi 1y ago

Knife crime statistics seem to suggest otherwise. It is nice, until it is not.

Knife crime is down 19% in London this year https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62nqvzzq79o https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62nqvzzq79o And still fewer stabbings per-capita than NYC.

AOE9 1y ago
It only matters in comparison to the rest of the UK, you don't know how they are collected/recorded differently across countries.
- edent 1y ago
  London has a lower knife crime rate than the West Midlands. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/ https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04... Hope that helps!
  - AOE9 1y ago
    Interesting it says knife crime for 23/24 was up 16% for London. I wonder if they only record convictions so the 19% decrease will change as people are convicted. Also West Midlands is that not Biringham etc? Is that not one of the other mostly non-white places in the UK? You could have pointed to number 3 on the list Cleveland being mostly white(95%+ I think) and not being much lower than London.
    - edent 1y ago
      It's almost like crime isn't that strongly correlated with the ethnic mix of a place! I'm sorry reality doesn't support your racism. Of course, if you don't believe the police data, that page suggests you look at hospital admissions. Again, as I said, London is lovely. You said there was a problem with knife crime. I pointed out that London is lower than a comparable major US city. It's also lower than several areas in the UK. Come and visit - don't believe the lies being spread.
      - AOE9 1y ago
        > It's almost like crime isn't that strongly correlated with the ethnic mix of a place! I'm sorry reality doesn't support your racism. How is what I said racist? I was agreeing with you but saying London being #2 and pointing to #1 is not really proving your point. You should point to #3 to make your point. > I pointed out that London is lower than a comparable major US city. Again, you can not compare across countries you don't know the difference in how the data is recorded. For example is a murder not recorded in the USA for every suspious death where as the UK it is for every murder conviction? > It's also lower than several areas in the UK. It is #2 on that 23/24 list. > Come and visit - don't believe the lies being spread. I lived on London's outskirts for multiple years and have to visit multiple times a year. I wouldn't describe it as great, I dread going everytime.