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Plus TIOBE had Perl enter the top 10 suddenly this year but I do not see any new developers. And Ada too! Where are all those Ada programmers?

WhereIsTheTruth 1y ago
https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/packages?compare=ada,gcc,go,java-runtime-common,perl,php,python,ruby,rust,typescript https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/packages?compare=ada,gcc,go,ja... Ada seems pretty popular on Arch This data is kinda worthless for popularity contests, since they may get picked up by aur packages, but this gives a solid insight into wich languages are foundational I wish the same was available for other distros You can do the same with docker images curl -s https://hub.docker.com/v2/repositories/library/python/ | jq -r ".pull_count" 8244552364 curl -s https://hub.docker.com/v2/repositories/library/golang/ | jq -r ".pull_count" 2396145586 curl -s https://hub.docker.com/v2/repositories/library/perl/ | jq -r ".pull_count" 248786850 curl -s https://hub.docker.com/v2/repositories/library/rust/ | jq -r ".pull_count" 102699482 "Top Languages" doesn't mean "better" nor does it mean "best"
- epcoa 1y ago
  That’s a C++ URL parser library, has nothing to do with the programming language.
- maleldil 1y ago
  You want gcc-ada for the programming language.
pjmlp 1y ago
Keeping 7 Ada vendors in business, one of the few areas where developers actually pay for tooling. https://www.adacore.com/ https://www.adacore.com/ https://www.ghs.com/products/ada_optimizing_compilers.html https://www.ghs.com/products/ada_optimizing_compilers.html https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/apexada https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/apexada https://www.ddci.com/solutions/products/ddci-developer-suite/ https://www.ddci.com/solutions/products/ddci-developer-suite... http://www.irvine.com/tech.html http://www.irvine.com/tech.html http://www.ocsystems.com/w/index.php/OCS:PowerAda http://www.ocsystems.com/w/index.php/OCS:PowerAda http://www.rrsoftware.com/html/prodinf/janus95/j-ada95.htm http://www.rrsoftware.com/html/prodinf/janus95/j-ada95.htm
- zerr 1y ago
  It's more like people in golf suits agree on corruption schemes rather than actual devs making decisions.
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    Which nonetheless reveals it is more relevant than others.
kamaal 1y ago
>>Perl enter the top 10 suddenly this year but I do not see any new developers. Perl is almost as active as Javascript. And more useful than Python. https://metacpan.org/recent https://metacpan.org/recent I write Perl to do all sorts of thing every week. Its strange its not in the top 5 list.
- cies 1y ago
  You're joking right?
  - lief79 1y ago
    That was an active debate ... 15 years ago
  - kamaal 1y ago
    If you look at programming language list- Apart from Python, Java. Most are targeted to specific platforms(databases, browsers, embedded systems) or tech(SQL for database). The general purpose programming languages today are still- Python, Java, and Perl. Make whatever of this you will. Larry Wall at one point said, if you make something very specific to a use case(like awk, sed, php etc), it sort of naturally starts to come out of general purpose use. Its just that Kotlin, Rust, Go, SQL, Julia, SQL, Javascript etc. These are not general purpose programming languages.

WhereIsTheTruth 1y ago

https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/packages?compare=ada,gcc,go,java-runtime-common,perl,php,python,ruby,rust,typescript https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/packages?compare=ada,gcc,go,ja... Ada seems pretty popular on Arch This data is kinda worthless for popularity contests, since they may get picked up by aur packages, but this gives a solid insight into wich languages are foundational I wish the same was available for other distros You can do the same with docker images curl -s https://hub.docker.com/v2/repositories/library/python/ | jq -r ".pull_count" 8244552364 curl -s https://hub.docker.com/v2/repositories/library/golang/ | jq -r ".pull_count" 2396145586 curl -s https://hub.docker.com/v2/repositories/library/perl/ | jq -r ".pull_count" 248786850 curl -s https://hub.docker.com/v2/repositories/library/rust/ | jq -r ".pull_count" 102699482 "Top Languages" doesn't mean "better" nor does it mean "best"

epcoa 1y ago
That’s a C++ URL parser library, has nothing to do with the programming language.
maleldil 1y ago
You want gcc-ada for the programming language.

pjmlp 1y ago

Keeping 7 Ada vendors in business, one of the few areas where developers actually pay for tooling. https://www.adacore.com/ https://www.adacore.com/ https://www.ghs.com/products/ada_optimizing_compilers.html https://www.ghs.com/products/ada_optimizing_compilers.html https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/apexada https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/apexada https://www.ddci.com/solutions/products/ddci-developer-suite/ https://www.ddci.com/solutions/products/ddci-developer-suite... http://www.irvine.com/tech.html http://www.irvine.com/tech.html http://www.ocsystems.com/w/index.php/OCS:PowerAda http://www.ocsystems.com/w/index.php/OCS:PowerAda http://www.rrsoftware.com/html/prodinf/janus95/j-ada95.htm http://www.rrsoftware.com/html/prodinf/janus95/j-ada95.htm

zerr 1y ago
It's more like people in golf suits agree on corruption schemes rather than actual devs making decisions.
- pjmlp 1y ago
  Which nonetheless reveals it is more relevant than others.

kamaal 1y ago

>>Perl enter the top 10 suddenly this year but I do not see any new developers. Perl is almost as active as Javascript. And more useful than Python. https://metacpan.org/recent https://metacpan.org/recent I write Perl to do all sorts of thing every week. Its strange its not in the top 5 list.

cies 1y ago
You're joking right?
- lief79 1y ago
  That was an active debate ... 15 years ago
- kamaal 1y ago
  If you look at programming language list- Apart from Python, Java. Most are targeted to specific platforms(databases, browsers, embedded systems) or tech(SQL for database). The general purpose programming languages today are still- Python, Java, and Perl. Make whatever of this you will. Larry Wall at one point said, if you make something very specific to a use case(like awk, sed, php etc), it sort of naturally starts to come out of general purpose use. Its just that Kotlin, Rust, Go, SQL, Julia, SQL, Javascript etc. These are not general purpose programming languages.