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> backpacks were marginalized as being associated with being too poor to own a car. The majority of all commuters in SF do not commute by car: https://www.sf.g

by rpearl 1y ago

> backpacks were marginalized as being associated with being too poor to own a car. The majority of all commuters in SF do not commute by car: https://www.sf.gov/data--vision-zero-benchmarking-commute-methods https://www.sf.gov/data--vision-zero-benchmarking-commute-me... This has been true for at least a decade. The trend, even ignoring COVID, is that a decreasing proportion do so.

inferiorhuman 1y ago
The majority of all commuters in SF do not commute by car A plurality do (35% in 2022 vs 17% via transit). Remote work knocked down the percentage that commute by car a bit, but took a bigger chunk out of the other modes (e.g. 34% used transit in 2018 but 17% in 2022). I've used a messenger bag for decades and never felt marginalized in the least. Plenty of other folks seem to rock employer swag backpacks. vOv
- rpearl 1y ago
  Sure, it's just ...pretty odd? for OP to say "backpacks were marginalized as being associated with being too poor to own a car" when it's 65% of people who do not use a car in this context at all. (aside: transit is up to 25% again recently, apparently; https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/remote-work-home-data-21039335.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/remote-work-home.... And that graph has an even more interesting number which is that in 2019 transit was the plurality.)
  - kragen 1y ago
    This was 20-25 years ago. No Uber Cab, no Google shuttles, no e-bikes, no rental scooters, Caltrain was diesel and hadn't been renovated, and there was no real-time tracking of Muni buses' positions, so unless you were taking an express bus, you had no idea when the bus would arrive at the stop. And a large part of San Francisco's population was still poor. There were a lot of people who didn't use a car in that context at all, but people who could mostly did.

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> backpacks were marginalized as being associated with being too poor to own a car. The majority of all commuters in SF do not commute by car: https://www.sf.g

by rpearl 1y ago

inferiorhuman 1y ago
The majority of all commuters in SF do not commute by car A plurality do (35% in 2022 vs 17% via transit). Remote work knocked down the percentage that commute by car a bit, but took a bigger chunk out of the other modes (e.g. 34% used transit in 2018 but 17% in 2022). I've used a messenger bag for decades and never felt marginalized in the least. Plenty of other folks seem to rock employer swag backpacks. vOv
- rpearl 1y ago
  Sure, it's just ...pretty odd? for OP to say "backpacks were marginalized as being associated with being too poor to own a car" when it's 65% of people who do not use a car in this context at all. (aside: transit is up to 25% again recently, apparently; https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/remote-work-home-data-21039335.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/remote-work-home.... And that graph has an even more interesting number which is that in 2019 transit was the plurality.)
  - kragen 1y ago
    This was 20-25 years ago. No Uber Cab, no Google shuttles, no e-bikes, no rental scooters, Caltrain was diesel and hadn't been renovated, and there was no real-time tracking of Muni buses' positions, so unless you were taking an express bus, you had no idea when the bus would arrive at the stop. And a large part of San Francisco's population was still poor. There were a lot of people who didn't use a car in that context at all, but people who could mostly did.