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I don't see how this will be enforceable.
by ajay-b 1y ago
I don't see how this will be enforceable.
- platevoltage 1y agoI do. ICE agents show up hiding their face, Local or State cops put them in handcuffs for breaking the law.
- sampli 1y agolol. Good luck with that
- platevoltage 1y agoDo ICE agents have super powers or something?
- sampli 1y agoNo, but federal law trumps state
- blackqueeriroh 1y agoThere is no federal law here.
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- fknorangesite 1y agoFriend, it doesn't take superpowers. It just takes being on the same team.
- mixmastamyk 1y agoUncle Sam has the biggest military on Earth. State troopers wouldn’t last longer than the time to deploy.
- blackqueeriroh 1y agoThat military continually gets kicked out when its legal right to be there is called into question.
- mixmastamyk 1y agoI don’t believe they’d leave with their own in jeopardy. However, we’re deep into uncharted territory here so hard to say definitively how it would all go down.
- platevoltage 1y agoIf "Uncle Sam" deploys the military, that's pretty much it for the USA.
- beng-nl 1y agoThey already have - the national guard.
- ethbr1 1y agoThe National Guard and Active Duty are very different, legally speaking. https://www.csg.org/2024/09/25/military-101-orders/ https://www.csg.org/2024/09/25/military-101-orders/ What section of US law they're activated/deployed under determines whether or not they can legally be used in an internal law enforcement capacity. And generally speaking, federalized forces (either active or NG) cannot ever be used as law enforcement. Hence why, despite the posturing and marketing of 'sending the military in', this administration is specifically using federalized military forces only in non-law enforcement capacities (and then encouraging the freed up state/local law enforcement to focus on law enforcement).
- beng-nl 1y agoThat is enlightening, thank you.
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- mixdup 1y agoYeah, they're cops. Cops aren't going to arrest other cops. Their superpower is being the people who are supposed to enforce the law, if they decide to break it who is going to stop them?
- cmxch 1y agoFederal agents then do same for state authorities for obstructing justice.
- wnc3141 1y agoI would hazard a guess of which group says "I'm not paid enough for this" first - with the billions of funding just given to ICE.
- blackqueeriroh 1y agoThe FBI? Led by Kash “I put on Visine with a mop” Patel?
- ethbr1 1y agoHence why this will be decided by the Supreme Court, as it's fundamentally a question of state vs federal power and the limits of each.
- castillar76 1y agoYeah, call me overly cynical but I'm waiting for this cycle to play out: - CA bans face-masks for law-enforcement - White House issues executive order requiring face-mask use for all federal law enforcement - Both are placed on hold pending litigation, allowing the status quo (face-masks) to continue - Litigation eventually winds up at the Supreme Court - Supreme Court once again confirms White House can do whatever the hell it wants, Constitution be damned. I really hate this timeline. Like, a lot.
- ethbr1 1y agoThe en vogue 'Supreme Court always sides with the Administration' is a lazy and inaccurate take. (That's usually used to justify 'And that's why I don't need to spend time looking into the actual details and just give up') If people actually took the time to read the opinions [0], they'd realize... 1. Many of the 'allow the administration to continue' rulings are overriding stays, rather than actual decisions. Those cases are still pending in the courts and will eventually end up back at the Supreme Court. 2. Of the actual Supreme Court decisions, the news typically gives the most dumbed-down, hot take version. 3. Even to people without a legal background, much of the decision or dissent is written in plain English, attempts to lay out the rationale, and can be read by anyone with a secondary education. [0] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/slipopinion/24 https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/slipopinion/24
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