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this is not smart. If you want to reform an H1B program, reform it. This is not a reform, this is a bizarre attempt to do what? stop companies from hiring fo

this is not smart. If you want to reform an H1B program, reform it. This is not a reform, this is a bizarre attempt to do what? stop companies from hiring foreigners? they will simply hire them in their foreign offices or offshore.

fastball 1y ago
What is reform and what is not reform? This is a change, not a cancellation. That sounds like reform to me.
- vasilipupkin 1y ago
  reform is a type of action that tries to identify a concrete set of issues and fix those issues, implies a positive change. this is a change in the direction of significantly reducing hiring of foreign workers by American companies, which is bad for everyone. It's bad for American companies, because it will reduce their growth. It's bad for American workers because when our companies don't grow, neither does our economy and that hurts Americans. So it's a change, but it's a dumb change.
  - fastball 1y ago
    Could you give an example of the type of reform would be a positive change?
- throwaway89201 1y ago
  In other democratic countries, reform is mostly proposed in parliament. Experts and other government institutions are publicly consulted. Reform is seldomly passed under emergency grounds, and H1B rules are an unlikely area for emergency executive action that has a transition period of not more than 2 days.
  - AngryData 1y ago
    Of course in other democratic countries their parliaments haven't purposefully and willingly seceded their powers to the executive branch and spent the last 50 years completely ignoring the entirety of the people's will, needs, and desires as they gathered and concentrated as much additional power as possible.
- cmurf 1y ago
  Reform is done legally. The statute this falls under requires the fee be based on the administrative cost to process the application. Changing the statute requires Congress to act.
  - fastball 1y ago
    So if congress passed a law to impose a $100k fee it is reform? That is the only aspect that is concerning?
    - cmurf 1y ago
      Yes. No.
      - fastball 1y ago
        I don't think that is true from the perspective of the initial comment I was replying to. Clearly the crux of their concern was not "this ain't an act of congress".
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y ago
Unless they follow this up with some major excise tax, this is the obvious outcome of this, IMO.

fastball 1y ago

What is reform and what is not reform? This is a change, not a cancellation. That sounds like reform to me.

vasilipupkin 1y ago
reform is a type of action that tries to identify a concrete set of issues and fix those issues, implies a positive change. this is a change in the direction of significantly reducing hiring of foreign workers by American companies, which is bad for everyone. It's bad for American companies, because it will reduce their growth. It's bad for American workers because when our companies don't grow, neither does our economy and that hurts Americans. So it's a change, but it's a dumb change.
- fastball 1y ago
  Could you give an example of the type of reform would be a positive change?
throwaway89201 1y ago
In other democratic countries, reform is mostly proposed in parliament. Experts and other government institutions are publicly consulted. Reform is seldomly passed under emergency grounds, and H1B rules are an unlikely area for emergency executive action that has a transition period of not more than 2 days.
- AngryData 1y ago
  Of course in other democratic countries their parliaments haven't purposefully and willingly seceded their powers to the executive branch and spent the last 50 years completely ignoring the entirety of the people's will, needs, and desires as they gathered and concentrated as much additional power as possible.
cmurf 1y ago
Reform is done legally. The statute this falls under requires the fee be based on the administrative cost to process the application. Changing the statute requires Congress to act.
- fastball 1y ago
  So if congress passed a law to impose a $100k fee it is reform? That is the only aspect that is concerning?
  - cmurf 1y ago
    Yes. No.
    - fastball 1y ago
      I don't think that is true from the perspective of the initial comment I was replying to. Clearly the crux of their concern was not "this ain't an act of congress".

ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y ago

Unless they follow this up with some major excise tax, this is the obvious outcome of this, IMO.