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Perfect number to make H1Bs a tool that is out of reach for startups but still meaningful for large entrenched corporations. Nailed it. Maybe they can even waiv

Perfect number to make H1Bs a tool that is out of reach for startups but still meaningful for large entrenched corporations. Nailed it. Maybe they can even waive the fee if you give the US government 10% of your company.

etothepii 1y ago
An equity minimum would deal with this.
dilyevsky 1y ago
University hiring is basically rekt. Throwing out baby with the bath water per usual with this admin...
- kelnos 1y ago
  How much does university hiring depend on H-1B? I would expect much of that comes through O-1 or EB-1/2/3, no?
  - fooker 1y ago
    No, pretty much all professors who used to be international students or postdocs are on H1B.
    - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
      So... Now those spots will have to go to American students and grads?
      - fooker 1y ago
        Some will. Most won't be filled at all.
        dilyevsky 1y ago
        +1 This will also reduce demand for these programs from international students - make tuition more expensive for locals. Asking to consider 2nd/3rd order effect seems like a bit too much for a median hn poster though
    - whamlastxmas 1y ago
      my understanding is post docs are virtually all on J1 visas, which is a meaningful part of uni hiring
      - fooker 1y ago
        > used to be
  - deleted 1y ago
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  - jltsiren 1y ago
    H-1B is the default visa for international faculty hires. You can get it in a few months with relatively little effort. O-1 is more expensive, takes longer to get, and requires more effort from the applicant. Then there is the subjective approval process that involves a degree of risk, and in the end, you get a slightly inferior visa. Green cards are almost useless for hiring, as the processing times are too long. "We would like to offer you this position, but conditionally. We still need a year or two to handle the bureaucracy, and we can't say for sure if we are actually allowed to hire you. Please don't accept another position meanwhile."
- apwell23 1y ago
  lots of immigrant kids are in uni now. all my cousins are doing cs now. look at latest batch of yc founders.

etothepii 1y ago

An equity minimum would deal with this.

dilyevsky 1y ago

University hiring is basically rekt. Throwing out baby with the bath water per usual with this admin...

kelnos 1y ago
How much does university hiring depend on H-1B? I would expect much of that comes through O-1 or EB-1/2/3, no?
- fooker 1y ago
  No, pretty much all professors who used to be international students or postdocs are on H1B.
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    So... Now those spots will have to go to American students and grads?
    - fooker 1y ago
      Some will. Most won't be filled at all.
      - dilyevsky 1y ago
        +1 This will also reduce demand for these programs from international students - make tuition more expensive for locals. Asking to consider 2nd/3rd order effect seems like a bit too much for a median hn poster though
  - whamlastxmas 1y ago
    my understanding is post docs are virtually all on J1 visas, which is a meaningful part of uni hiring
    - fooker 1y ago
      > used to be
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- jltsiren 1y ago
  H-1B is the default visa for international faculty hires. You can get it in a few months with relatively little effort. O-1 is more expensive, takes longer to get, and requires more effort from the applicant. Then there is the subjective approval process that involves a degree of risk, and in the end, you get a slightly inferior visa. Green cards are almost useless for hiring, as the processing times are too long. "We would like to offer you this position, but conditionally. We still need a year or two to handle the bureaucracy, and we can't say for sure if we are actually allowed to hire you. Please don't accept another position meanwhile."
apwell23 1y ago
lots of immigrant kids are in uni now. all my cousins are doing cs now. look at latest batch of yc founders.