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> the companies that try to boost their chances with the lottery by creating multiple applications for the same person This was already addressed by changing t

by DeRock 1y ago

> the companies that try to boost their chances with the lottery by creating multiple applications for the same person This was already addressed by changing the odds to be per unique candidate, not application, thereby reducing the incentive to game it. More context here: https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-announces-strengthened-integrity-measures-for-h-1b-program https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-announces...

namirez 1y ago
Unfortunately that doesn't work in practice since the consulting firms submit multiple applications for multiple candidates to get one candidate in. I believe charging extra for each application is a good way to discourage this practice but I'm not sure if $100k is the right number or not. To me it seems a bit too high.
- DeRock 1y ago
  The odds are now per candidate, not per application. If they submit multiple applications, it does not up chances for that candidate in any way. And yes, it does work, because we have data from the year before this change, to the year after to compare against. The "Eligible Registrations for Beneficiaries with Multiple Eligible Registrations" dropped from 47,314 for FY 2025 to 7,828 for FY 2026. Source: https://www.uscis.gov/archive/uscis-announces-strengthened-integrity-measures-for-h-1b-program https://www.uscis.gov/archive/uscis-announces-strengthened-i...
  - mcflubbins 1y ago
    > the consulting firms submit multiple applications for multiple candidates to get one candidate in.
  - nosianu 1y ago
    > If they submit multiple applications, it does not up chances for that candidate in any way. I believe the parent commenter's argument is that they instead play the game with multiple people. The increased chance is not per person, but achieved by using more people, each with their own chance. I don't know if they do this, I merely find the argument itself intriguing with the shift in perspective, and that you as the reader has to keep track of the change in context from the individual one level up.
- sbmthakur 1y ago
  Wasn't the application linked to the candidate's passport number?
  - namirez 1y ago
    Again, it doesn't matter. You could apply for 100 candidates hoping to get one candidate accepted. For these firms, individual candidates don't matter. They want to get X number of cheap employees into the US per year. And they never file for a green card.
throwaway219450 1y ago
I find it odd that the H-1B has no per-country limits, which would have avoided all of this from the start.

by DeRock 1y ago

namirez 1y ago

Unfortunately that doesn't work in practice since the consulting firms submit multiple applications for multiple candidates to get one candidate in. I believe charging extra for each application is a good way to discourage this practice but I'm not sure if $100k is the right number or not. To me it seems a bit too high.

DeRock 1y ago
The odds are now per candidate, not per application. If they submit multiple applications, it does not up chances for that candidate in any way. And yes, it does work, because we have data from the year before this change, to the year after to compare against. The "Eligible Registrations for Beneficiaries with Multiple Eligible Registrations" dropped from 47,314 for FY 2025 to 7,828 for FY 2026. Source: https://www.uscis.gov/archive/uscis-announces-strengthened-integrity-measures-for-h-1b-program https://www.uscis.gov/archive/uscis-announces-strengthened-i...
- mcflubbins 1y ago
  > the consulting firms submit multiple applications for multiple candidates to get one candidate in.
- nosianu 1y ago
  > If they submit multiple applications, it does not up chances for that candidate in any way. I believe the parent commenter's argument is that they instead play the game with multiple people. The increased chance is not per person, but achieved by using more people, each with their own chance. I don't know if they do this, I merely find the argument itself intriguing with the shift in perspective, and that you as the reader has to keep track of the change in context from the individual one level up.
sbmthakur 1y ago
Wasn't the application linked to the candidate's passport number?
- namirez 1y ago
  Again, it doesn't matter. You could apply for 100 candidates hoping to get one candidate accepted. For these firms, individual candidates don't matter. They want to get X number of cheap employees into the US per year. And they never file for a green card.

throwaway219450 1y ago

I find it odd that the H-1B has no per-country limits, which would have avoided all of this from the start.