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It's OSS and self-hostable. And it's got a great UI and the most joyous technology I've ever had the pleasure of using. https://zulip.com/self-hosting/ https://

It's OSS and self-hostable. And it's got a great UI and the most joyous technology I've ever had the pleasure of using. https://zulip.com/self-hosting/ https://zulip.com/self-hosting/

Kirth 1y ago
Sadly as with many such products, if you want SSO and the like, you'll still end up paying per user per month. That gets stupid expensive quick
- coder543 1y ago
  Or not. > When you self-host Zulip, you get the same software as our Zulip Cloud customers. > Unlike the competition, you don't pay for SAML authentication, LDAP sync, or advanced roles and permissions. There is no “open core” catch — just freely available world-class software. The optional pricing plans for self-hosted mention that you are buying email and chat support for SAML and other features, but I don't see where they're charging for access to SAML on self-hosted Zulip.
  - Kirth 1y ago
    That's exciting! I didn't catch that from the pricing page, thank you for clarifying :)
amarant 1y ago
Oh, so I was missing something! That was not very obvious from their landing page! Well in that case, carry on!
- nh2 1y ago
  > That was not very obvious from their landing page! It says in bold letters: "Your data is yours! For ultimate control and compliance, self-host Zulip’s 100% open-source software"
  - amarant 1y ago
    Well yeah but I bet slack has similar wording on their site. In this case they apparently meant it, but to me that just registers as marketing speech. I guess I've been on the internet too long, my brain automatically blacks certain language out, like a biological spam filter.
    - 48terry 1y ago
      > Well yeah but I bet slack has similar wording on their site. ...You could go to the Slack website right now and see? We're on the internet. It's all on the internet. We can literally just check. Doesn't seem to mention anything about being open source, anything privacy-related, data, or hosting.

It's OSS and self-hostable. And it's got a great UI and the most joyous technology I've ever had the pleasure of using. https://zulip.com/self-hosting/ https://zulip.com/self-hosting/

Kirth 1y ago

Sadly as with many such products, if you want SSO and the like, you'll still end up paying per user per month. That gets stupid expensive quick

coder543 1y ago
Or not. > When you self-host Zulip, you get the same software as our Zulip Cloud customers. > Unlike the competition, you don't pay for SAML authentication, LDAP sync, or advanced roles and permissions. There is no “open core” catch — just freely available world-class software. The optional pricing plans for self-hosted mention that you are buying email and chat support for SAML and other features, but I don't see where they're charging for access to SAML on self-hosted Zulip.
- Kirth 1y ago
  That's exciting! I didn't catch that from the pricing page, thank you for clarifying :)

amarant 1y ago

Oh, so I was missing something! That was not very obvious from their landing page! Well in that case, carry on!

nh2 1y ago
> That was not very obvious from their landing page! It says in bold letters: "Your data is yours! For ultimate control and compliance, self-host Zulip’s 100% open-source software"
- amarant 1y ago
  Well yeah but I bet slack has similar wording on their site. In this case they apparently meant it, but to me that just registers as marketing speech. I guess I've been on the internet too long, my brain automatically blacks certain language out, like a biological spam filter.
  - 48terry 1y ago
    > Well yeah but I bet slack has similar wording on their site. ...You could go to the Slack website right now and see? We're on the internet. It's all on the internet. We can literally just check. Doesn't seem to mention anything about being open source, anything privacy-related, data, or hosting.