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> dependency inclusion _should not_ be a main criterion for evaluating how good a build system is That's just like, your opinion, man.

• taminka 1y ago
  i mean, unless you have some absolute divine truths, that's kind of the best i have :shrug
  • virtualritz 1y ago
    There are no truths but your opinion in this case runs counter of what 35 years developing software have taught me. Obviously, I may be an outlier. Some crank who's just smitten by the proposal of spending his time writing code instead of trying to get a dependency (and its sub-dependencies and their sub-dependencies) to build at all (e.g. C/C++) or to have the right version that works with ALL the code that depends on it (e.g. Python). I.e. I use cargo foremost (by a large margin) for that reason.
    • taminka 1y ago
      in my original comment i specifically mentioned that C (and C++) situation is also too extreme and not optimal...
• lutusp 1y ago
  > That's just like, your opinion, man. I would love to know how many younger readers recognize this classic movie reference.