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Yeah, nitrogen chemistry, high-concentration hydrogen peroxyde is already fairly restricted, as well as poisons. Including in the US. The "right to bear arms"

by aredox 1y ago

Yeah, nitrogen chemistry, high-concentration hydrogen peroxyde is already fairly restricted, as well as poisons. Including in the US. The "right to bear arms" doens't cover high-energy explosives.

SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
Interestingly, the laws around high explosives in the US aren’t as restricted as you think. You can make lots of things legally. The laws are around storage and transport. Where the short version is you 24hours and you mostly can’t transport.
mothballed 1y ago
Ackshually, when the NFA was passed to 'tax' explosives ('destructive devices'), it was considered unconstitutional infringement on the right to keep/bear arms to ban explosives, machine guns, etc so they 'taxed' them instead. You can still buy/manufacture them with a tax stamp. Also when congress de-funded (outlawed) the process for felons to restore their firearm rights, they forgot to do it with explosives. So even a felon can have high-energy explosives legally.
jandrewrogers 1y ago
High explosives are even less regulated than firearms in the US. You can buy them by the ton and explosives are very inexpensive. This does not circumvent compliance with regulations for safe transport and storage, which is the practical limitation.
- aredox 1y ago
  >the practical limitation That... Wouldn't be tolerated if this was a 2nd amendment right. Imagine the same limitations applied to firearms.
  - mothballed 1y ago
    Black powder, which is used (and at the time necessary) in the kind of firearms used when the 2A was conceived, has such limitations in any non-trivial (more than personal use) quantity.
  - jandrewrogers 1y ago
    I can store a ton of firearms in my garage but they can’t destroy the neighborhood by accident. High-explosives can. People that buy high-explosives at scale just have some land outside of town where they can store them en masse. Problem solved. There are huge magazines of high-explosive just outside many major cities all over the US. Very infrequently, one of them goes “boom”, which kind of justifies forcing them to be on the outskirts. You can own it, you just have to store it where it won’t wreck your neighbors if you are an idiot. Rural land is cheap.

by aredox 1y ago

Yeah, nitrogen chemistry, high-concentration hydrogen peroxyde is already fairly restricted, as well as poisons. Including in the US. The "right to bear arms" doens't cover high-energy explosives.

SV_BubbleTime 1y ago

Interestingly, the laws around high explosives in the US aren’t as restricted as you think. You can make lots of things legally. The laws are around storage and transport. Where the short version is you 24hours and you mostly can’t transport.

mothballed 1y ago

Ackshually, when the NFA was passed to 'tax' explosives ('destructive devices'), it was considered unconstitutional infringement on the right to keep/bear arms to ban explosives, machine guns, etc so they 'taxed' them instead. You can still buy/manufacture them with a tax stamp. Also when congress de-funded (outlawed) the process for felons to restore their firearm rights, they forgot to do it with explosives. So even a felon can have high-energy explosives legally.

jandrewrogers 1y ago

High explosives are even less regulated than firearms in the US. You can buy them by the ton and explosives are very inexpensive. This does not circumvent compliance with regulations for safe transport and storage, which is the practical limitation.

aredox 1y ago
>the practical limitation That... Wouldn't be tolerated if this was a 2nd amendment right. Imagine the same limitations applied to firearms.
- mothballed 1y ago
  Black powder, which is used (and at the time necessary) in the kind of firearms used when the 2A was conceived, has such limitations in any non-trivial (more than personal use) quantity.
- jandrewrogers 1y ago
  I can store a ton of firearms in my garage but they can’t destroy the neighborhood by accident. High-explosives can. People that buy high-explosives at scale just have some land outside of town where they can store them en masse. Problem solved. There are huge magazines of high-explosive just outside many major cities all over the US. Very infrequently, one of them goes “boom”, which kind of justifies forcing them to be on the outskirts. You can own it, you just have to store it where it won’t wreck your neighbors if you are an idiot. Rural land is cheap.