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Fascinating case showing how LLM promoters will happily take "verified" benchmarks at their word. It's easy to publish "$NEWMODEL received an X% bump in SWE-Be
by slacktivism123 1y ago
Fascinating case showing how LLM promoters will happily take "verified" benchmarks at their word.
It's easy to publish "$NEWMODEL received an X% bump in SWE-Bench Verified!!!!".
Proper research means interrogating the traces, like these researchers did (the Gist shows Claude 4 Sonnet): https://gist.github.com/jacobkahn/bd77c69d34040a9e9b10d56baa669a10 https://gist.github.com/jacobkahn/bd77c69d34040a9e9b10d56baa...
Commentary: https://x.com/bwasti/status/1963288443452051582 https://x.com/bwasti/status/1963288443452051582, https://x.com/tmkadamcz/status/1963996138044096969 https://x.com/tmkadamcz/status/1963996138044096969
- k__ 1y agoYes, often you see huge gains in some benchmark, then the model is ran through Aider's polyglot benchmark and doesn't even hit 60%.
- Workaccount2 1y agoThe best benchmark is the community vibe in the weeks following a release. Claude benchmarks poorly but vibes well. Gemini benchmarks well and vibes well. Grok benchmarks well but vibes poorly. (yes I know you are gushing with anecdotes, the vibes are simply the approximate color of gray born from the countless black and white remarks.)
- wubrr 1y agothe vibes are just a collection anecdotes
- ryoshu 1y ago"qual"
- diggan 1y ago> The best benchmark is the community vibe in the weeks following a release. True, just be careful what community you use as a vibe-check. Most of the mainstream/big ones around AI and LLMs basically have influence campaigns run against them, are made of giant hive-minds that all think alike and you need to carefully asses if anything you're reading is true or not, and votes tend to make it even worse.
- theblazehen 1y agoI generally check LM Arena as well as which models have had the most weekly tokens on openrouter