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Turn-by-Turn navigation came on Android way earlier than it came with iPhone 5 yesterday. How fair it is for Apple complain about stealing ideas?

rimantas 14y ago
Are you trying to say, that Apple was not aware about the thing called turn-by-turn navigation before Android? > How fair it is for Apple complain about stealing ideas? How about spending some time and finding out what the trial was really about?
- SquareWheel 14y ago
  "Are you trying to say, that Apple was not aware about the thing called turn-by-turn navigation before Android?" Are you trying to say that Google was not aware of universal search? http://www.google.com/patents/US8086604 http://www.google.com/patents/US8086604
  - fpgeek 14y ago
    Well, to be fair, the filing date on that patent is Dec 1, 2004. Absent genuine industrial espionage, it would have been rather hard for the Google Desktop team to have been aware of it in October 2004: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop Or are you saying Google should have checked for new patents (and patent applications - this wasn't issued until December 2011) before re-implementing something they'd already done on the desktop on an Android phone?
headShrinker 14y ago
Turn by turn existed before Android.
- mycodebreaks 14y ago
  Agreed. Apple can't accuse competitors of being copycats when they are a copycat too at times.
mycodebreaks 14y ago
I am not saying "Infringing Patents". I am saying "Stealing Ideas". They are not the same terms. As Tim Cook put it in his email "sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn’t right". It doesn't matter who the original inventor of Turn-by-Turn navigation is. It came on Android earlier. If something is not protected under patent, it doesn't mean that you are not stealing/copying an idea when you copy a feature from other devices/systems. It's wrong when you copy features of competitors and you blast at them when they do so. http://9to5mac.com/2012/08/24/tim-cook-tells-apple-employees-that-todays-victory-is-about-values/ http://9to5mac.com/2012/08/24/tim-cook-tells-apple-employees...

rimantas 14y ago

Are you trying to say, that Apple was not aware about the thing called turn-by-turn navigation before Android? > How fair it is for Apple complain about stealing ideas? How about spending some time and finding out what the trial was really about?

SquareWheel 14y ago
"Are you trying to say, that Apple was not aware about the thing called turn-by-turn navigation before Android?" Are you trying to say that Google was not aware of universal search? http://www.google.com/patents/US8086604 http://www.google.com/patents/US8086604
- fpgeek 14y ago
  Well, to be fair, the filing date on that patent is Dec 1, 2004. Absent genuine industrial espionage, it would have been rather hard for the Google Desktop team to have been aware of it in October 2004: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop Or are you saying Google should have checked for new patents (and patent applications - this wasn't issued until December 2011) before re-implementing something they'd already done on the desktop on an Android phone?

headShrinker 14y ago

Turn by turn existed before Android.

mycodebreaks 14y ago
Agreed. Apple can't accuse competitors of being copycats when they are a copycat too at times.

mycodebreaks 14y ago

I am not saying "Infringing Patents". I am saying "Stealing Ideas". They are not the same terms. As Tim Cook put it in his email "sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn’t right". It doesn't matter who the original inventor of Turn-by-Turn navigation is. It came on Android earlier. If something is not protected under patent, it doesn't mean that you are not stealing/copying an idea when you copy a feature from other devices/systems. It's wrong when you copy features of competitors and you blast at them when they do so. http://9to5mac.com/2012/08/24/tim-cook-tells-apple-employees-that-todays-victory-is-about-values/ http://9to5mac.com/2012/08/24/tim-cook-tells-apple-employees...