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No, making edits to an exiting codebase. (If that's what you meant)

by RedMist 1y ago

pdabbadabba 1y ago
I think that was just a joke about "Full Self Driving" -- and how it still doesn't work.
- mplewis 1y ago
  Full Self Coding by next year at the latest
  - antonvs 1y ago
    And soon after that, self coding in a Mars colony
- innocentoldguy 1y ago
  What do you mean by “it still doesn’t work“? I never drive anymore because my Tesla does such a fine job of doing it for me.
  - cebert 1y ago
    I’ve had good long trips with my Model Y where I didn’t need to intervene once. 4+ hour end of summer road trips.
  - vunderba 1y ago
    To me, "full self driving" means you can hop in the back seat and have a nap. If you have to keep your hands near the wheel and maintain attention to the road then... shrugs not really the same. IMHO we're in the "uncanny valley" of vehicular automation.
    - rkomorn 1y ago
      > the "uncanny valley" of vehicular automation I think this is a very good description of where autonomous vehicles are right now.
      - bpavuk 1y ago
        everything a layman would call "AI" is in the "uncanny valley" at the moment! - Boston Dynamics' Atlas does not move as gracefully as a human - LLM writing and code is oh-so-easy to spot - the output of diffusion models is indistinguishable from a photo... until you look at it for longer than 5 seconds and decide to zoom in because "something's wrong" - motion in AI-generated videos is very uncanny
        sebastiennight 1y ago
        > LLM writing and code is oh-so-easy to spot Maybe it's because we get use to it and therefore recognize it easier, but it does seem to get more and more recognizable instead of the opposite, doesn't it? I think I could recognize a ChatGPT email way easier in 2025 than if you showed me the same email written by gpt-3.5.
    - innocentoldguy 1y ago
      You don’t have to keep your hands on the wheel.
    - yndoendo 1y ago
      I would add that "full self-driving" also means that the car company or the self-driving development company holds all liability in a car accident that the owner has none. Even Tesla right now states that the owner holds the liability in any accident. [0] There are no proper retention laws with car manufacturers and self-driving development companies that I know of. [0] https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/08/how-a-hacker-helped-win-a-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-tesla/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/08/how-a-hacker-helped-win...

No, making edits to an exiting codebase. (If that's what you meant)

pdabbadabba 1y ago

I think that was just a joke about "Full Self Driving" -- and how it still doesn't work.

mplewis 1y ago
Full Self Coding by next year at the latest
- antonvs 1y ago
  And soon after that, self coding in a Mars colony
innocentoldguy 1y ago
What do you mean by “it still doesn’t work“? I never drive anymore because my Tesla does such a fine job of doing it for me.
- cebert 1y ago
  I’ve had good long trips with my Model Y where I didn’t need to intervene once. 4+ hour end of summer road trips.
- vunderba 1y ago
  To me, "full self driving" means you can hop in the back seat and have a nap. If you have to keep your hands near the wheel and maintain attention to the road then... shrugs not really the same. IMHO we're in the "uncanny valley" of vehicular automation.
  - rkomorn 1y ago
    > the "uncanny valley" of vehicular automation I think this is a very good description of where autonomous vehicles are right now.
    - bpavuk 1y ago
      everything a layman would call "AI" is in the "uncanny valley" at the moment! - Boston Dynamics' Atlas does not move as gracefully as a human - LLM writing and code is oh-so-easy to spot - the output of diffusion models is indistinguishable from a photo... until you look at it for longer than 5 seconds and decide to zoom in because "something's wrong" - motion in AI-generated videos is very uncanny
      - sebastiennight 1y ago
        > LLM writing and code is oh-so-easy to spot Maybe it's because we get use to it and therefore recognize it easier, but it does seem to get more and more recognizable instead of the opposite, doesn't it? I think I could recognize a ChatGPT email way easier in 2025 than if you showed me the same email written by gpt-3.5.
  - innocentoldguy 1y ago
    You don’t have to keep your hands on the wheel.
  - yndoendo 1y ago
    I would add that "full self-driving" also means that the car company or the self-driving development company holds all liability in a car accident that the owner has none. Even Tesla right now states that the owner holds the liability in any accident. [0] There are no proper retention laws with car manufacturers and self-driving development companies that I know of. [0] https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/08/how-a-hacker-helped-win-a-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-tesla/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/08/how-a-hacker-helped-win...