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Literally everyone I know who isn't technical calls Firefox "mozilla". Including older people.

jacobgkau 1y ago
It includes older people because Mozilla had previous work before Firefox, so they heard that name first. I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that, including non-technical people who somehow still have a nostalgic and/or ideological affinity for Firefox.
- latexr 1y ago
  > I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that Anecdotally, I’ve heard both people older and younger than you calling it Mozilla. And not tech-illiterate people, either.
  - itintheory 1y ago
    I prefer "Mozzarella Foxfire".
  - jacobgkau 1y ago
    > And not tech-illiterate people, either. Yeah, again, probably because tech-literate (not tech-illiterate) people are more likely to know the history of the organization beyond when they started using the software. My point was pretty much that the know-nothing user learning about the software today/recently knows it's called Firefox and might never have heard of Mozilla. The branding is clear about Firefox and the Mozilla name is essentially background knowledge.
- Timwi 1y ago
  When the Mozilla foundation took over the Netscape codebase, it was initially called Mozilla, or Mozilla Browser. There was also a Mozilla email client that came from Netscape Communicator. Then they made a trimmed-down version of the browser with only essential features. That was initially called Phoenix, then Firebird, then Firefox. They did the same with the email client and called it Thunderbird. These existed alongside Mozilla Browser for a while until it was discontinued.
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jraph 1y ago
I once heard Mozzarella. Can you imagine the cheesy user-agent strings we'd have?
hatthew 1y ago
anecdotally, I have never heard anybody call the browser software "mozilla" alone
latexr 1y ago
And Acrobat “Adobe”. I wonder if those mistakes are less prevalent in cultures where the family name comes first.
- pix128 1y ago
  Acrobat Reader was called "Adobe Reader" for a good number of years.

It includes older people because Mozilla had previous work before Firefox, so they heard that name first. I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that, including non-technical people who somehow still have a nostalgic and/or ideological affinity for Firefox.

latexr 1y ago
> I've never heard anyone my age (27) or younger call it that Anecdotally, I’ve heard both people older and younger than you calling it Mozilla. And not tech-illiterate people, either.
- itintheory 1y ago
  I prefer "Mozzarella Foxfire".
- jacobgkau 1y ago
  > And not tech-illiterate people, either. Yeah, again, probably because tech-literate (not tech-illiterate) people are more likely to know the history of the organization beyond when they started using the software. My point was pretty much that the know-nothing user learning about the software today/recently knows it's called Firefox and might never have heard of Mozilla. The branding is clear about Firefox and the Mozilla name is essentially background knowledge.
Timwi 1y ago
When the Mozilla foundation took over the Netscape codebase, it was initially called Mozilla, or Mozilla Browser. There was also a Mozilla email client that came from Netscape Communicator. Then they made a trimmed-down version of the browser with only essential features. That was initially called Phoenix, then Firebird, then Firefox. They did the same with the email client and called it Thunderbird. These existed alongside Mozilla Browser for a while until it was discontinued.

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jraph 1y ago

I once heard Mozzarella. Can you imagine the cheesy user-agent strings we'd have?

hatthew 1y ago

anecdotally, I have never heard anybody call the browser software "mozilla" alone

latexr 1y ago

And Acrobat “Adobe”. I wonder if those mistakes are less prevalent in cultures where the family name comes first.

pix128 1y ago
Acrobat Reader was called "Adobe Reader" for a good number of years.