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Why is leaking the video the right thing? There were multiple videos of the incident including footage from a EarthCam live camera. And the NTSB released multip
by iowemoretohim 1y ago
Why is leaking the video the right thing? There were multiple videos of the incident including footage from a EarthCam live camera. And the NTSB released multiple videos as part of their investigation. The video wasn't leaked in order to stop a coverup.
- ajross 1y agoIsn't that an even stronger argument that the leak shouldn't be criminal?
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoNo, for the same that stealing an item isn’t okay because there is more in the back.
- userbinator 1y agoYou can infinitely "steal" digital data. That's where the analogy breaks down. Imaginary property is imaginary.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> Imaginary property is imaginary Property, a social construct, is always imaginary. The ship on IP, from insider trading laws to copyright, has sailed. If the only argument against a potential crime is IP isn’t real, the person is probably wrong.
- zarzavat 1y agoThis is all very well but exactly what type of IP is CCTV footage? It's not copyrighted. It's not patented. It's not trademarked. ...trade secret?
- fuckaj 1y agoCopyright
- zarzavat 1y agoCCTV footage is not a creative work, it doesn't even have an author.
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoYou’re correct, it is not copyright. It comes closer to me asking to use your computer to check my bank account and then emailing myself all your identify documents.
- userbinator 1y agoStealing physical property deprives its original owner of it. The same can't be said of IP.
- School-Cotton 1y agoSo what? That at most means they’re slightly different flavors of the abstraction we call “property”. And owning property — even physical property — entails having the right to prevent other people from using it, even in ways that don’t deprive you of it. You can’t drive my car without permission, even if you bring it back in perfect condition and I wasn’t planning on using it that day.
- ajross 1y agoImpact and harm is absolutely part of the criteria by which we judge crimes and penalties. Not sure where you're going with that.
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoOf course harm matters. Stealing a priceless original is worse, and punished harder, than stealing a commodity out of a corner store. That doesn’t mean the latter is fine.
- ajross 1y agoThere's a spectrum between "not fine" and criminal prosecution!
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> a spectrum between "not fine" and criminal prosecution! And I’d say someone who premeditates a company wide shutdown, triggers it, and then doesn’t offer to help after its damage becomes clearly apparent crosses the line of criminal responsibility.
- s_dev 1y ago>Why is leaking the video the right thing? Because it's in the public interest. The law doesn't state what's right only what's permitted.