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Though you may wish the license was different I find it hard to believe you have no idea what the license allows for This can be found online as "dual licensin

by rhodey 1y ago

Though you may wish the license was different I find it hard to believe you have no idea what the license allows for This can be found online as "dual licensing"

stuartjohnson12 1y ago
Don't mind me over here reselling your software non-commercially
abetusk 1y ago
No. I may have a guess of what the intended license is but what the license says is complete nonsense. It's self contradictory. If they want to let people use it in non-commercial settings but are willing to provide a license for commercial use, then they could have provided a non-commercial license. If they wanted to provide a FOSS license, then they should have provided one and offered a dual license option (by the actual commonly accepted usage of that term in this context). If they want to make an MIT-like license but make it for non-commercial use, then they should just call it a non-commercial license and not confuse the issue by claiming it's MIT. As it stands, they've provided a FOSS license, that explicitly allows the use, modification, redistribution and resale in commercial settings, but slapped a "non-commercial" term at the top of it. "Please use this software however you like, including in commercial settings, redistributing it for profit and modifying it for your commercial use. Also, don't use it for commercial use" What?
progbits 1y ago
This is not how dual licensing works. If you offer two licenses I get to pick. And I pick MIT which allows me to use it commercially. If you disagree, then it's not MIT but some custom license, so don't label it as such.
- rhodey 1y ago
  What the license allows for is very clear I publish many things without dual licensing and yet your kind will not be satisfied
  - cAtte_ 1y ago
    if it forbids commercial use, it's not MIT. like at all
    - rhodey 1y ago
      This is simple I wrote a license The license says there are two licenses If you are non-commercial you get MIT If you are commercial you email for terms There is nowhere a claim that this is MIT
      - Retr0id 1y ago
        You can create any custom license terms you like, as you have done, but if you refer to it as the "MIT License" (which you do, explicitly) without the source being available under the MIT license, you invite only confusion.
        rhodey 1y ago
        If I published using any non-commercial license whatsoever there would be disagreements so here we are all the same
        yreg 1y ago
        Yeah, why do anything right, people will complain all the same. /s
      - ahazred8ta 1y ago
        Your lawyer will explain to you that what you wanted, and what your license terms actually mean, are two different things. There are noncommercial users who have downloaded your software and are using it under the terms of the MIT license. You already gave them permission. Now, they can give copies to commercial users, who can use it under the terms of the MIT license. Your lawyer will explain this to you.
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burnte 1y ago
I understand your intent here but you're being told that you have not correctly achieved it, and you need to make some small changes to get to where you want to be. Presently you say this: > This software is available under two licenses: > MIT: non-commercial use > Proprietary: commercial use, contact for terms: hello@bizcardz.ai What this means: "You may select from one of two licenses for this software: - the MIT license which has no restrictions of any kind - a proprietary license you must contact me to learn about." I get you think adding "non-commercial" to that line means you're telling folks the MIT option is only for noncommercial uses, but that's not the end effect. What you are actually saying is that people can choose MIT or not, and they're going to choose MIT. You tried to say it's MIT only for noncommercial, but that language IS NOT IN THE MIT LICENSE and so your statement is unenforcable. We're only trying to help you here. What I think you're looking for: You may select from one of two licenses for this software: 1. All use where the code is used in a commercial, revenue generating, or other for-pay or professional use, you must purchase a license. Contact me for details. 2. For non-commercial uses the software is free to use, modify, and redistribute for other non-commercial uses. Then you want to use a license that agrees with your desires, and MIT is not that license. Right now anyone can take your code, take it under MIT, and you've got literally nothing to say about it. So just change that license, that's all. Or don't it's not our code that will be misused. Never write a legal document yourself. Always talk to a lawyer because these traps are really easy to set.

by rhodey 1y ago

Though you may wish the license was different I find it hard to believe you have no idea what the license allows for This can be found online as "dual licensing"

stuartjohnson12 1y ago

Don't mind me over here reselling your software non-commercially

abetusk 1y ago

No. I may have a guess of what the intended license is but what the license says is complete nonsense. It's self contradictory. If they want to let people use it in non-commercial settings but are willing to provide a license for commercial use, then they could have provided a non-commercial license. If they wanted to provide a FOSS license, then they should have provided one and offered a dual license option (by the actual commonly accepted usage of that term in this context). If they want to make an MIT-like license but make it for non-commercial use, then they should just call it a non-commercial license and not confuse the issue by claiming it's MIT. As it stands, they've provided a FOSS license, that explicitly allows the use, modification, redistribution and resale in commercial settings, but slapped a "non-commercial" term at the top of it. "Please use this software however you like, including in commercial settings, redistributing it for profit and modifying it for your commercial use. Also, don't use it for commercial use" What?

progbits 1y ago

This is not how dual licensing works. If you offer two licenses I get to pick. And I pick MIT which allows me to use it commercially. If you disagree, then it's not MIT but some custom license, so don't label it as such.

rhodey 1y ago
What the license allows for is very clear I publish many things without dual licensing and yet your kind will not be satisfied
- cAtte_ 1y ago
  if it forbids commercial use, it's not MIT. like at all
  - rhodey 1y ago
    This is simple I wrote a license The license says there are two licenses If you are non-commercial you get MIT If you are commercial you email for terms There is nowhere a claim that this is MIT
    - Retr0id 1y ago
      You can create any custom license terms you like, as you have done, but if you refer to it as the "MIT License" (which you do, explicitly) without the source being available under the MIT license, you invite only confusion.
      - rhodey 1y ago
        If I published using any non-commercial license whatsoever there would be disagreements so here we are all the same
        yreg 1y ago
        Yeah, why do anything right, people will complain all the same. /s
    - ahazred8ta 1y ago
      Your lawyer will explain to you that what you wanted, and what your license terms actually mean, are two different things. There are noncommercial users who have downloaded your software and are using it under the terms of the MIT license. You already gave them permission. Now, they can give copies to commercial users, who can use it under the terms of the MIT license. Your lawyer will explain this to you.
      - 1y ago

burnte 1y ago

I understand your intent here but you're being told that you have not correctly achieved it, and you need to make some small changes to get to where you want to be. Presently you say this: > This software is available under two licenses: > MIT: non-commercial use > Proprietary: commercial use, contact for terms: hello@bizcardz.ai What this means: "You may select from one of two licenses for this software: - the MIT license which has no restrictions of any kind - a proprietary license you must contact me to learn about." I get you think adding "non-commercial" to that line means you're telling folks the MIT option is only for noncommercial uses, but that's not the end effect. What you are actually saying is that people can choose MIT or not, and they're going to choose MIT. You tried to say it's MIT only for noncommercial, but that language IS NOT IN THE MIT LICENSE and so your statement is unenforcable. We're only trying to help you here. What I think you're looking for: You may select from one of two licenses for this software: 1. All use where the code is used in a commercial, revenue generating, or other for-pay or professional use, you must purchase a license. Contact me for details. 2. For non-commercial uses the software is free to use, modify, and redistribute for other non-commercial uses. Then you want to use a license that agrees with your desires, and MIT is not that license. Right now anyone can take your code, take it under MIT, and you've got literally nothing to say about it. So just change that license, that's all. Or don't it's not our code that will be misused. Never write a legal document yourself. Always talk to a lawyer because these traps are really easy to set.