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"wars will happen as long as humans exist" - I fundamentally disagree with this premise. I never once saw a child murder another, so why do we assume it's inevi
by w_for_wumbo 1y ago
"wars will happen as long as humans exist" - I fundamentally disagree with this premise. I never once saw a child murder another, so why do we assume it's inevitable when people are grown? Why do we hold adults to lower standards than children.
These assumptions when they go unquestioned create the landscape for war to be accepted.
- milchek 1y agoPerhaps OP meant that the military industrial complex will always ensure wars happen? Incentives are there to make money from weaponry and defense contracts. Further incentives are there to take land or resources, or to simply destabilize competing nations. To stop all of this requires a pretty fundamental shift in a human machine that is still hardwired for survival.
- TheAlchemist 1y agoNope, I mean humans are like that. We always want more, we are jalous of what another one have, there are countless unsolvable issues involving race, religions, history. Sooner or later those transform into wars, inevitably. If by some miracle you could get all nations to agree not to arm, that would work, but of course it's unrealistic. As soon as there is 1 that don't agree (or worse, agree but arm secretely) everybody needs to arm as well.
- rangestransform 1y agoBecause we have a lot of resources, I want to keep the amount of resources that I have or increase it, and they want the same for themselves
- XorNot 1y agoAlternatively: the heretics will never learn and sully this world, let us convert them at the point of the sword!
- wrboyce 1y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger There are, unfortunately, many examples of child murderers.
- w_for_wumbo 1y agoThere are plenty of examples of children that aren't provided for, given the time or care required to prevent outcomes that we don't want. That doesn't mean that we accept child murder, we do everything we can to prevent it from happening. If a plane falls out of the sky, we do everything that we can do to ensure it never happens again. If we don't look at war and understand it, we won't ever have the tools to prevent it.
- Workaccount2 1y agoThere will always be single things that two groups feel they both entitled to, and both sides can't share it. Death is the only tool we were given to ensure a single side wins.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y ago> Death is the only tool we were given to ensure a single side wins. "given" implies a belief in a higher power. most of the popular ones say "don't do that".
- Workaccount2 1y agoThat higher power is "if you are dead, you can no longer participate in this universe".
- oinfoalgo 1y agoI can't believe a grown adult really believes something this naive. I just assume it is a type of performance.
- w_for_wumbo 1y agoMaybe I am just naive. Can you shed some light and explain why you believe that war is inevitable?
- 1oooqooq 1y agohe won't because all they do is project their bad childhood into a false sense of self sufficiency that is entirely based on tacticool clothes/cars while very well knowing his self sufficiency relies solely on not being part of some minority.
- keepamovin 1y agoThe way your high-powered mind leads you astray with compelling false gymnastics is impressive, but obviously satisfies its own projective emotional need. Turn your perception inward rather than finding the demons outside to make real progress?