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so is not opening a service based business

XorNot 1y ago
Sure but it's also a scaling factor. People are going to choose the tradeoff that's right for them or their insurance costs.
- exe34 1y ago
  Capitalism working as intended. Wealth extraction without having to give back to the community.
  - bawolff 1y ago
    They give back by paying taxes. Like i think the intended path here is that taxes pay for a library, a park, or a community center. Having random businesses create hang out spots out of the goodness of their heart is not the intended path. They can if it makes sense for their business, but community needs should be primarily funded through taxes not business charity.
    - exe34 1y ago
      Only yesterday some people on here were trying to convince me that taxes were literally like slavery for rich people!
      - mathgeek 1y ago
        If it’s that bad for wealthy folks, imagine the impact on everyone else.
    - andrepd 1y ago
      Would make sense, your reasoning, if they actually paid taxes. Unfortunately everything is very broken on that front, labor pays much higher taxes than corporations, the richest don't pay taxes at all, and the shortfall is plugged by cutting public services and issuing debt on what remains.
      - fn-mote 1y ago
        The comment thread is about a McDonalds franchise owner. They are not going to be committing Apple-level tax evasion. They will be paying taxes like everyone else.
        anon7725 1y ago
        Not “like everyone else”. In comparison to an employee, a business owner has a vast array of tools available to them to limit taxes.
        bawolff 1y ago
        Income tax on employees is a tax on the business
        exe34 1y ago
        That's right, if my income gets taxed more, it's my employer that could default on his mortgage.
        bawolff 1y ago
        You are being sarcastic, but yes that is indeed how it works. Increased payroll taxes increases expenses for the business and if expenses increase enough business will go under. Wage taxes suck for the employee, but they are not the only party affected.
        exe34 1y ago
        > Increased payroll taxes increases expenses for the business The amount of disconnect from reality is staggering.
  - carlosjobim 1y ago
    You can just choose to not buy hamburgers from that McDonald's. No person needs unhealthy food.
    - exe34 1y ago
      I haven't eaten that sort of food for over a decade.
bawolff 1y ago
Sounds like that is the path this business owner took. One macdonalds deciding they dont want to be a sit-down resturant anymore doesn't prevent anyone else from opening a competing resturant.

Sure but it's also a scaling factor. People are going to choose the tradeoff that's right for them or their insurance costs.

exe34 1y ago
Capitalism working as intended. Wealth extraction without having to give back to the community.
- bawolff 1y ago
  They give back by paying taxes. Like i think the intended path here is that taxes pay for a library, a park, or a community center. Having random businesses create hang out spots out of the goodness of their heart is not the intended path. They can if it makes sense for their business, but community needs should be primarily funded through taxes not business charity.
  - exe34 1y ago
    Only yesterday some people on here were trying to convince me that taxes were literally like slavery for rich people!
    - mathgeek 1y ago
      If it’s that bad for wealthy folks, imagine the impact on everyone else.
  - andrepd 1y ago
    Would make sense, your reasoning, if they actually paid taxes. Unfortunately everything is very broken on that front, labor pays much higher taxes than corporations, the richest don't pay taxes at all, and the shortfall is plugged by cutting public services and issuing debt on what remains.
    - fn-mote 1y ago
      The comment thread is about a McDonalds franchise owner. They are not going to be committing Apple-level tax evasion. They will be paying taxes like everyone else.
      - anon7725 1y ago
        Not “like everyone else”. In comparison to an employee, a business owner has a vast array of tools available to them to limit taxes.
        bawolff 1y ago
        Income tax on employees is a tax on the business
        exe34 1y ago
        That's right, if my income gets taxed more, it's my employer that could default on his mortgage.
        bawolff 1y ago
        You are being sarcastic, but yes that is indeed how it works. Increased payroll taxes increases expenses for the business and if expenses increase enough business will go under. Wage taxes suck for the employee, but they are not the only party affected.
        exe34 1y ago
        > Increased payroll taxes increases expenses for the business The amount of disconnect from reality is staggering.
- carlosjobim 1y ago
  You can just choose to not buy hamburgers from that McDonald's. No person needs unhealthy food.
  - exe34 1y ago
    I haven't eaten that sort of food for over a decade.

bawolff 1y ago

Sounds like that is the path this business owner took. One macdonalds deciding they dont want to be a sit-down resturant anymore doesn't prevent anyone else from opening a competing resturant.