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> Don’t ICE cars require a lot more maintenance per mile than EVs? Model 3/Y battery replacement is US$15,000 to US$20,000. Wipes out all other EV maintenance
by chronal4720 1y ago
> Don’t ICE cars require a lot more maintenance per mile than EVs?
Model 3/Y battery replacement is US$15,000 to US$20,000.
Wipes out all other EV maintenance cost advantages.
- adrianN 1y agoHow long does the battery last though? Engine replacements are expensive too, but usually every other part breaks before the engine.
- chronal4720 1y ago> How long does the battery last though? Tesla gives 8 years for battery warranty. Interpret that as you may. In reality, too early to tell. But probably not 20+ years like a Toyota/Honda engine or even a Mercedes/BMW/Porsche engine.
- comte7092 1y agoApply that reasoning to ICE, it’s not like Toyota/Honda are giving 20 year warranties for their drivetrains. 8 years is standard and implies a substantially longer expected lifetime of the vehicle on average.
- Loggias 1y agoWell, considering that some teslas have gone 300k miles on the same battery, this is a moot point.
- Joel_Mckay 1y agoTrue, but grey market rebuilt packs for Prius are only $2k to $6k if you know the secret of the Cab fleet companies. For most other models one is indeed not so lucky =3
- YZF 1y agoModern batteries can last a long while though. If you take care of it and mostly keep it between 25-75% and don't supercharge it too often. There are Teslas with more than 300K miles on the original battery. I have a model 3 with ~80K kilometers and the battery is as good as new. 2018 model. For someone that drives 10-15K km a year there's maybe 30 years more driving on this battery (400K km). My previous ICE car had two head gasket replacements in the 10 years I owned it. I also had to replace the entire engine. Oil changes. Brake pads/discs, CV joints... So far the EV is way ahead and based on the current battery degradation should remain ahead.
- chronal4720 1y ago> If you take care of it and mostly keep it between 25-75% and don't supercharge it too often For used cars, you don’t know what the previous owner did. > For someone that drives 10-15K km a year there's maybe 30 years more driving on this battery (400K km). EV battery life is more related to calendar age, rather than number of charge cycles and C charging rate.
- hvb2 1y ago> EV battery life is more related to calendar age, rather than number of charge cycles and C charging rate. That seems to be contrary to common belief. It's the cycles that deteriorate the cathode/anode. I would like to read up on your source
- flowerthoughts 1y agoFor a Tesla with under-the-hood/enforced telemetry, I guess you could actually know what the previous owner did.
- foxglacier 1y agoYou have battery health stats which can reflect poor charging habits of the previous owner.
- Loggias 1y ago[dead]