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I've found most models don't do good with negatives like that. This is me personifying them, but it feels like they fixate on the thing you told them not to do,
by Klathmon 1y ago
I've found most models don't do good with negatives like that. This is me personifying them, but it feels like they fixate on the thing you told them not to do, and they just end up doing it more.
I've had much better experiences with rephrasing things in the affirmative.
- refactor_master 1y agoRelevant elephant discussion: https://community.openai.com/t/why-cant-chatgpt-draw-a-room-without-an-elephant/1138265 https://community.openai.com/t/why-cant-chatgpt-draw-a-room-...
- yunohn 1y agoThis entire thread is questioning why OpenAI themselves use repetitive negatives for various behaviors like “not outputting JSON”. There is no magic prompting sauce and affirmative prompting is not a panacea.
- xwolfi 1y agobecause it is a stupid auto complete, it doesn't understand negation fully, it statistically judge the weight of your words to find the next one, and the next one and the next one. That's not how YOU work, so it makes no sense, you're like "but when I said NOT, a huge red flag popped in my brain with a red cross on it, why the LLM still does it". Because, it has no concept of anything.
- tomalbrc 1y agoThe downvotes perfectly summarize the way the people just eat up OpenAi’s diarrhea, especially Sam Altmans
- joshvm 1y agoThe closest I've got to avoiding the emoji plague is to instruct the model that responses will be viewed on an older terminal that only supports extended ascii characters, so only use those for accessibility. A lot of these issues must be baked in deep with models like Claude. It's almost impossible to get rid of them with rules/custom prompts alone.