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Can only speak for Germany and the mass deportations here are done by liberals. They also let 40k+ people drown in the Mediterranean, support literally every si

by okucu 1y ago

Can only speak for Germany and the mass deportations here are done by liberals. They also let 40k+ people drown in the Mediterranean, support literally every single war, support multiple genocides and export weapons to all dictatorships known to man. At this point I'm not sure the actual Nazis would be worse than liberals. Also very weird how whenever "liberals/centrists" are in power the (ultra) right gain lots of momentum. Must be the weather Almost forgot: we're also in our third year of recession and the only investments are made in the military industry to prep for starting the next world war

FinnKuhn 1y ago
I don't want to get too political, but calling the CDU/CSU liberal is pretty misleading in this context considering that they are part of the EVP (conservative) on a European level and not Renew Europe (liberal).
- okucu 1y ago
  What has anything I said to do with the European parliament? I'm talking about the same parties in general. Greens are even further right than cdu/csu who have the same policies in 99% of cases as libs >I don't want to get too political Do you practice self censorship like the German media?
  - FinnKuhn 1y ago
    > What has anything I said to do with the European parliament? This whole thread is about EU politics. > Greens are even further right than cdu/csu who have the same policies in 99% of cases as libs Trying to paint the greens as further right than CDU/CSU is just plain wrong by any measure. The greens are a green/social liberal party while the CDU/CSU are conservative center-right party. None of their politicians would ever argue that they are more left than the greens which is pretty obvious when looking at a quote from Friedrich Merz (German chancellor and party leader of the CDU/CSU) where he quite literally says that the greens are more left. [1] [1] https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/merz-gruene-100.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/merz-gruene-10... English: "In the coming weeks and months, we will once again significantly intensify the debate with the Greens and, above all, counter the impression that we are always looking to the left and saying that we absolutely must form a coalition with them at some point."
    - okucu 1y ago
      The one I responded to was talking about something else. You trust what the parties are saying rather than what they're actually doing? Is this a joke? The biggest warmongering party the greens are supposed to be left? This is tagesschau levels of propaganda. You are talking about greens, the party that wants to deport everyone who criticizes Israel, sues everyone who insults them, and they literally warned against a "linksruck".
      - FinnKuhn 1y ago
        Your comments are so far removed from reality I won't even respond to them as it is not possible to do so.
        okucu 1y ago
        Keep reading Tagesschau. Remember, everyone who's against war is right wing and pro war and pro genocide is the new left position. All those germans who talk about what they "would have done" in nazi germany. If you look at germans today the answer is clear. Look away or better yet help the war effort.
gotoeleven 1y ago
What "mass" deportations in germany are you talking about? I can only find any news references to two flights, totaling ~100 people in the past year. Surely even a normal level of deportations, let alone "mass" deportations, would generate more deportations than this? And you're really not sure this is less draconian than nazis?
- namibj 1y ago
  Normal deportations get booked on commercial flights, not herded onto charters.
  - gotoeleven 1y ago
    https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/64755/germany-over-6000-deportations-in-the-first-quarter https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/64755/germany-over-6000... The vast majority of these deportations are just shuffling people around the EU in what seems like a game of hot potato over who is supposed to be responsible for a given migrant. Deportations that actually get people out of the EU seem to be extremely rare afaict.
- okucu 1y ago
  20k people were deported in 2024. That's not insignificant. Anyway, let's assume germany deported 0 people. It's telling that you're focusing in typical liberal manner on a single issue and disregarding everything else (war, genocide, recession, submission to usa as a vassal state etc.)

by okucu 1y ago

FinnKuhn 1y ago

I don't want to get too political, but calling the CDU/CSU liberal is pretty misleading in this context considering that they are part of the EVP (conservative) on a European level and not Renew Europe (liberal).

okucu 1y ago
What has anything I said to do with the European parliament? I'm talking about the same parties in general. Greens are even further right than cdu/csu who have the same policies in 99% of cases as libs >I don't want to get too political Do you practice self censorship like the German media?
- FinnKuhn 1y ago
  > What has anything I said to do with the European parliament? This whole thread is about EU politics. > Greens are even further right than cdu/csu who have the same policies in 99% of cases as libs Trying to paint the greens as further right than CDU/CSU is just plain wrong by any measure. The greens are a green/social liberal party while the CDU/CSU are conservative center-right party. None of their politicians would ever argue that they are more left than the greens which is pretty obvious when looking at a quote from Friedrich Merz (German chancellor and party leader of the CDU/CSU) where he quite literally says that the greens are more left. [1] [1] https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/merz-gruene-100.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/merz-gruene-10... English: "In the coming weeks and months, we will once again significantly intensify the debate with the Greens and, above all, counter the impression that we are always looking to the left and saying that we absolutely must form a coalition with them at some point."
  - okucu 1y ago
    The one I responded to was talking about something else. You trust what the parties are saying rather than what they're actually doing? Is this a joke? The biggest warmongering party the greens are supposed to be left? This is tagesschau levels of propaganda. You are talking about greens, the party that wants to deport everyone who criticizes Israel, sues everyone who insults them, and they literally warned against a "linksruck".
    - FinnKuhn 1y ago
      Your comments are so far removed from reality I won't even respond to them as it is not possible to do so.
      - okucu 1y ago
        Keep reading Tagesschau. Remember, everyone who's against war is right wing and pro war and pro genocide is the new left position. All those germans who talk about what they "would have done" in nazi germany. If you look at germans today the answer is clear. Look away or better yet help the war effort.

gotoeleven 1y ago

What "mass" deportations in germany are you talking about? I can only find any news references to two flights, totaling ~100 people in the past year. Surely even a normal level of deportations, let alone "mass" deportations, would generate more deportations than this? And you're really not sure this is less draconian than nazis?

namibj 1y ago
Normal deportations get booked on commercial flights, not herded onto charters.
- gotoeleven 1y ago
  https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/64755/germany-over-6000-deportations-in-the-first-quarter https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/64755/germany-over-6000... The vast majority of these deportations are just shuffling people around the EU in what seems like a game of hot potato over who is supposed to be responsible for a given migrant. Deportations that actually get people out of the EU seem to be extremely rare afaict.
okucu 1y ago
20k people were deported in 2024. That's not insignificant. Anyway, let's assume germany deported 0 people. It's telling that you're focusing in typical liberal manner on a single issue and disregarding everything else (war, genocide, recession, submission to usa as a vassal state etc.)