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Oh absolutely, AI labs certainly talk their books, including any safety angles. The controversy/outrage extended far beyond those incentivized companies too. Ma

Oh absolutely, AI labs certainly talk their books, including any safety angles. The controversy/outrage extended far beyond those incentivized companies too. Many people had good faith worries about Llama. Open-weight models are now vastly more powerful than Llama-1, yet the sky hasn't fallen. It's just fascinating to me how apocalyptic people are. I just feel lucky to be around in what's likely the most important decade in human history. Shit odds on that, so I'm basically a lotto winner. Wild times.

4b6442477b1280b 1y ago
>Many people had good faith worries about Llama. ah, but that begs the question: did those people develop their worries organically, or did they simply consume the narrative heavily pushed by virtually every mainstream publication? the journos are heavily incentivized to spread FUD about it. they saw the writing on the wall that the days of making a living by producing clickbait slop were coming to an end and deluded themselves into thinking that if they kvetch enough, the genie will crawl back into the bottle. scaremongering about sci-fi skynet bullshit didn't work, so now they kvetch about joules and milliliters consumed by chatbots, as if data centers did not exist until two years ago. likewise, the bulk of other "concerned citizens" are creatives who use their influence to sway their followers, still hoping against hope to kvetch this technology out of existence. honest-to-God yuddites are as few and as retarded as honest-to-God flat earthers.
- kridsdale3 1y ago
  I've been pretty unlucky to have encountered more than my fair share of IRL Yuddites. Can't stand em.
ipaddr 1y ago
"the most important decade in human history." Lol. To be young and foolish again. This covid laced decade is more of a placeholder. The current decade is always the most meaningful until the next one. The personal computer era, the first cars or planes, ending slavery needs to take a backseat to the best search engine ever. We are at the point where everyone is planning on what they are going to do with their hoverboards.
- graemep 1y ago
  > ending slavery happened over many centuries, not in a given decade. Abolished and reintroduced in many places: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slave...
  - dingnuts 1y ago
    you can say the same shit about machine learning but ChatGPT was still the Juneteenth of AI
  - hedora 1y ago
    Slavery is still legal and widespread in most of the US, including California. There was a ballot measure to actually abolish slavery a year or so back. It failed miserably.
    - BizarroLand 1y ago
      The slavery of free humans is illegal in America, so now the big issue is figuring out how to convince voters that imprisoned criminals deserve rights. Even in liberal states, the dehumanization of criminals is an endemic behavior, and we are reaching the point in our society where ironically having the leeway to discuss the humane treatment of even our worst criminals is becoming an issue that affects how we see ourselves as a society before we even have a framework to deal with the issue itself. What one side wants is for prisons to be for rehabilitation and societal reintegration, for prisoners to have the right to decline to work and to be paid fair wages from their labor. They further want to remove for-profit prisons from the equation completely. What the other side wants is the acknowledgement that prisons are not free, they are for punishment, and that prisoners have lost some of their rights for the duration of their incarceration and that they should be required to provide labor to offset the tax burden of their incarceration on the innocent people that have to pay for it. They also would like it if all prisons were for-profit as that would remove the burden from the tax payers and place all of the costs of incarceration onto the shoulders of the incarcerated. Both sides have valid and reasonable wants from their vantage point while overlooking the valid and reasonable wants from the other side.
vlmutolo 1y ago
About 7% of people who have ever lived are alive today. Still pretty lucky, but not quite winning the lottery.
- foltik 1y ago
  Much luckier if you consider everyone who ever will live, assuming we don’t destroy ourselves.

4b6442477b1280b 1y ago

>Many people had good faith worries about Llama. ah, but that begs the question: did those people develop their worries organically, or did they simply consume the narrative heavily pushed by virtually every mainstream publication? the journos are heavily incentivized to spread FUD about it. they saw the writing on the wall that the days of making a living by producing clickbait slop were coming to an end and deluded themselves into thinking that if they kvetch enough, the genie will crawl back into the bottle. scaremongering about sci-fi skynet bullshit didn't work, so now they kvetch about joules and milliliters consumed by chatbots, as if data centers did not exist until two years ago. likewise, the bulk of other "concerned citizens" are creatives who use their influence to sway their followers, still hoping against hope to kvetch this technology out of existence. honest-to-God yuddites are as few and as retarded as honest-to-God flat earthers.

kridsdale3 1y ago
I've been pretty unlucky to have encountered more than my fair share of IRL Yuddites. Can't stand em.

ipaddr 1y ago

"the most important decade in human history." Lol. To be young and foolish again. This covid laced decade is more of a placeholder. The current decade is always the most meaningful until the next one. The personal computer era, the first cars or planes, ending slavery needs to take a backseat to the best search engine ever. We are at the point where everyone is planning on what they are going to do with their hoverboards.

graemep 1y ago
> ending slavery happened over many centuries, not in a given decade. Abolished and reintroduced in many places: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slave...
- dingnuts 1y ago
  you can say the same shit about machine learning but ChatGPT was still the Juneteenth of AI
- hedora 1y ago
  Slavery is still legal and widespread in most of the US, including California. There was a ballot measure to actually abolish slavery a year or so back. It failed miserably.
  - BizarroLand 1y ago
    The slavery of free humans is illegal in America, so now the big issue is figuring out how to convince voters that imprisoned criminals deserve rights. Even in liberal states, the dehumanization of criminals is an endemic behavior, and we are reaching the point in our society where ironically having the leeway to discuss the humane treatment of even our worst criminals is becoming an issue that affects how we see ourselves as a society before we even have a framework to deal with the issue itself. What one side wants is for prisons to be for rehabilitation and societal reintegration, for prisoners to have the right to decline to work and to be paid fair wages from their labor. They further want to remove for-profit prisons from the equation completely. What the other side wants is the acknowledgement that prisons are not free, they are for punishment, and that prisoners have lost some of their rights for the duration of their incarceration and that they should be required to provide labor to offset the tax burden of their incarceration on the innocent people that have to pay for it. They also would like it if all prisons were for-profit as that would remove the burden from the tax payers and place all of the costs of incarceration onto the shoulders of the incarcerated. Both sides have valid and reasonable wants from their vantage point while overlooking the valid and reasonable wants from the other side.

vlmutolo 1y ago

About 7% of people who have ever lived are alive today. Still pretty lucky, but not quite winning the lottery.

foltik 1y ago
Much luckier if you consider everyone who ever will live, assuming we don’t destroy ourselves.