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What apps do you have installed? This is interesting to know since the data might be from a popular app instead of Apple.
by ErikD 14y ago
What apps do you have installed? This is interesting to know since the data might be from a popular app instead of Apple.
- Monotoko 14y agoWhatsapp, ebuddy pro, ebuddy XMS, Angry Birds, Angry Birds Space, FML, XKCD, Facebook, Spotify, BBC News, Dropbox, Steam and PokerStars are the more popular ones official I have installed. I also have Cydia, a few tweaks and finally Installous (didn't want to admit that - I don't use it often - but thought it may spread some light here)
- saurik 14y agoI run Cydia, and have determined only 16.7% of the UDIDs in that file are from jailbroken devices: I thereby do not believe that whatever managed to get this data is anywhere in our ecosystem.
- fla 14y agoDoesn't 16% sounds above the average ? Could it be related to app warez on jailbroken devices, somehow ?
- Monotoko 14y agoI have Installous, so that could make this possible. However you need to jailbreak (which often involves Cydia) in order to even get access to Installous, so how about the other 84%? (PS: I only use Installous if I need to trial an expensive app - I will buy the app if it does what I need :))
- saurik 14y agoOne would not expect it to be at the average, because this information is going to have come from some popular app, and there will be high correlation between "people who have never used even a single app: they just wanted a phone" and "people who have never considered jailbreaking: they just wanted a phone"; this is even more the case once you consider that it might not be an app that "virtually everyone has": it might be an app that is either correlated with skill (you are slightly more likely to have the app, even controlling for people who have apps at all, if you are the kind of person who really cares) or negatively correlated with age (you are more likely to have the app if you are younger, which correlates better with the demographic of people who jailbreak).
- fla 14y agoVery interesting analysis. The question now is : which app/network exhibits such properties? Considering the data is recent, I suppose it eliminates big guys like Facebook/Apple. Thanks for sharing your numbers with the community.
- aw3c2 14y agoDo you have similar information stored about the Cydia users? How many users do you have?
- Monotoko 14y agoThat's a good question, I was wondering the same thing?
- saurik 14y agoThe question "how many users do you have" is impossible to answer, as all I can ever demonstrate is "X users used Cydia in the last Y period". As for your second question, the information I have for your average Cydia user (one that is not actively paying me money, in which case I obviously have tons of information) is purposely highly limited: I certainly do not have, for example, the "names" of devices that was included in these dumps from AntiSec (which often discloses the name of the user), or any of the other personal details that are claimed to be in the original file.
- aw3c2 14y agoThanks!
- epo 14y agoJailbroken eh? Wonder if that is the common link?
- gitarr 14y agoNo: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4473747 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4473747
- ThePinion 14y agoHonestly, I'm pretty sure it's Facebook. They are the ones tracking everyone, including non-FB users, via a tracking cookie the moment you visit their site after all... And you know the feds just love that data that FB can acquire.
- danudey 14y ago> They are the ones tracking everyone, including non-FB users, via a tracking cookie the moment you visit their site after all Twitter has started doing this lately as well (though allowing you to opt-out if you so choose).
- andyv88 14y agoWhat about Pokerstars? Their US operations were shut down the FBI recently on bank fraud and money laundering charges. http://www.tightpoker.com/news/pokerstars-shuts-down-2347/ http://www.tightpoker.com/news/pokerstars-shuts-down-2347/
- Sambdala 14y agoThere are far too many accounts leaked for them to be the source.