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Do not be so quick to excuse genocide, for people who far more qualified than yourself also agree with the rest of us (us being Humanity). https://www.nytimes.

Do not be so quick to excuse genocide, for people who far more qualified than yourself also agree with the rest of us (us being Humanity). https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/opinion/israel-gaza-holocaust-genocide-palestinians.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/opinion/israel-gaza-holoc...

slashdev 1y ago
I read the entire article and was unconvinced. For a genocide expert, he really didn’t lay out the argument well. And I think that’s because, at the end of the day, you can’t. The numbers don’t support it. It would be very easy to change my entire opinion and convert me to your side - but I only respond to logical arguments made with factual data.
- l33tbro 1y ago
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  - slashdev 1y ago
    You claim my opinion doesn’t matter, but you want others to care about your opinion. You see the problem with that right? You can repeat it as much as you want. It’s not a genocide. Obviously not all wars are fought in the trenches. This one has the enemy hiding under hospitals and schools using the populace as human shields. They desire more civilian casualties, because that helps them win the PR war. Convincing people like you who aren’t so good at logical reasoning.
    - l33tbro 1y ago
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      - slashdev 1y ago
        You and I disagree on everything, let’s leave it at that. Further discussion would not be fruitful.
slashdev 1y ago
Here’s a New York Times opinion piece (penned literally one week later) that comes the opposite conclusion. Unsurprisingly people disagree about this: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/22/opinion/no-israel-is-not-committing-genocide-in-gaza.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/22/opinion/no-israel-is-not-...
- dttze 1y ago
  The Fox News entertainer’s worthless opinion differs from the person who studies genocide? You don’t say. You going to tell us Netanyahu disagrees next too?
  - slashdev 1y ago
    Did you read the article? Instead of making ad-hominen attacks, can you counter the arguments within? > The first question the anti-Israel genocide chorus needs to answer is: Why isn’t the death count higher? If it's a genocide, it's the most ineptly executed genocide ever. From the same entity that humiliated and defanged both Hezbollah and Iran in days. It really doesn't fit. It does look like a war though. Yes wars are horrible, and lots of bad things happen in wars. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44695878 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44695878
    - judahmeek 1y ago
      >> The first question the anti-Israel genocide chorus needs to answer is: Why isn’t the death count higher? > If it's a genocide, it's the most ineptly executed genocide ever. Not if the intent is to kill as many as possible in a way that's politically acceptable. Being overly efficient in their genocide would make it hard for people like you to defend their actions.
      - dlubarov 1y ago
        If we assume GHM's data is accurate, Gaza's overall population slightly declined during the first several months of war, but increased since. Casualties have been around ~20k/yr (fighters included), compared to something like ~50k/yr births. How can it be a "slow, sneaky genocide" if the population is increasing? Has any other group faced serious genocide accusations in relation to an increasing population?

slashdev 1y ago

I read the entire article and was unconvinced. For a genocide expert, he really didn’t lay out the argument well. And I think that’s because, at the end of the day, you can’t. The numbers don’t support it. It would be very easy to change my entire opinion and convert me to your side - but I only respond to logical arguments made with factual data.

l33tbro 1y ago
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- slashdev 1y ago
  You claim my opinion doesn’t matter, but you want others to care about your opinion. You see the problem with that right? You can repeat it as much as you want. It’s not a genocide. Obviously not all wars are fought in the trenches. This one has the enemy hiding under hospitals and schools using the populace as human shields. They desire more civilian casualties, because that helps them win the PR war. Convincing people like you who aren’t so good at logical reasoning.
  - l33tbro 1y ago
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    - slashdev 1y ago
      You and I disagree on everything, let’s leave it at that. Further discussion would not be fruitful.

slashdev 1y ago

Here’s a New York Times opinion piece (penned literally one week later) that comes the opposite conclusion. Unsurprisingly people disagree about this: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/22/opinion/no-israel-is-not-committing-genocide-in-gaza.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/22/opinion/no-israel-is-not-...

dttze 1y ago
The Fox News entertainer’s worthless opinion differs from the person who studies genocide? You don’t say. You going to tell us Netanyahu disagrees next too?
- slashdev 1y ago
  Did you read the article? Instead of making ad-hominen attacks, can you counter the arguments within? > The first question the anti-Israel genocide chorus needs to answer is: Why isn’t the death count higher? If it's a genocide, it's the most ineptly executed genocide ever. From the same entity that humiliated and defanged both Hezbollah and Iran in days. It really doesn't fit. It does look like a war though. Yes wars are horrible, and lots of bad things happen in wars. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44695878 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44695878
  - judahmeek 1y ago
    >> The first question the anti-Israel genocide chorus needs to answer is: Why isn’t the death count higher? > If it's a genocide, it's the most ineptly executed genocide ever. Not if the intent is to kill as many as possible in a way that's politically acceptable. Being overly efficient in their genocide would make it hard for people like you to defend their actions.
    - dlubarov 1y ago
      If we assume GHM's data is accurate, Gaza's overall population slightly declined during the first several months of war, but increased since. Casualties have been around ~20k/yr (fighters included), compared to something like ~50k/yr births. How can it be a "slow, sneaky genocide" if the population is increasing? Has any other group faced serious genocide accusations in relation to an increasing population?