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Statistically that is a rather small number. But if we take the number of women in say, America, a web search says 334.9 million. 0.05% of that is 167,450. That

Statistically that is a rather small number. But if we take the number of women in say, America, a web search says 334.9 million. 0.05% of that is 167,450. That is quite a lot of women being killed by their partner.

kgwgk 1y ago
> the number of women in say, America, a web search says 334.9 million Doesn't look correct.
- ehutch79 1y ago
  That looks like the general population of the US, and is out of date, it’s 340m+
- pbhjpbhj 1y ago
  USA population is c.350M total, so they're probably off by half. https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/us-demographics/ https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/us-demographics/
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edmundsauto 1y ago
5k women are murdered in America each year, fwiw. 18k men are murdered. But women are murdered by their partners at a higher rate.
- cwmoore 1y ago
  How many men are murdered by their partner's other or would-be partners? Not none. Is suicide not counted in any way? A significant other or their loss will have a significant impact on mental health.
deathanatos 1y ago
According to the UNODC[1], in 2023, the rate of all murders of women in the US was 0.00205%. (2.05 per 100,000) Partner violence appears to account for ~34% of violence against women[2] (but vs. 6% for men), so that would be 0.697 per 100k or ~0.0007%, or ~1190 women/yr in the US[3]. Assuming I've done the math right… the risk is more than two orders of magnitude smaller than what you came up with. > Partner violence appears to account for ~34% of violence against women[2] (but vs. 6% for men) And this is sort of the point of the comment higher up: when you cut the stat this way, it seems like men are wildly dangerous creeps. But it is a statistic comparing one group to another group. We need to instead look at the absolute rate of partner violence to decide if men are on the whole violent murders or so, and there, the overall risk is low. [1]: https://dataunodc.un.org/dp-intentional-homicide-victims https://dataunodc.un.org/dp-intentional-homicide-victims [2]: https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021 https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offende... [3]: (I've assumed a round population of 340M for the US, with 50/50 gender, just an approximation.)
- adolph 1y ago
  > when you cut the stat this way, it seems like men are wildly dangerous creeps. Not exactly. The statistics didn't specify the gender identity of the perpetuator, just the relationship to the victim and the gender identity of the victim.

kgwgk 1y ago

> the number of women in say, America, a web search says 334.9 million Doesn't look correct.

ehutch79 1y ago
That looks like the general population of the US, and is out of date, it’s 340m+
pbhjpbhj 1y ago
USA population is c.350M total, so they're probably off by half. https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/us-demographics/ https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/us-demographics/

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edmundsauto 1y ago

5k women are murdered in America each year, fwiw. 18k men are murdered. But women are murdered by their partners at a higher rate.

cwmoore 1y ago
How many men are murdered by their partner's other or would-be partners? Not none. Is suicide not counted in any way? A significant other or their loss will have a significant impact on mental health.

deathanatos 1y ago

According to the UNODC[1], in 2023, the rate of all murders of women in the US was 0.00205%. (2.05 per 100,000) Partner violence appears to account for ~34% of violence against women[2] (but vs. 6% for men), so that would be 0.697 per 100k or ~0.0007%, or ~1190 women/yr in the US[3]. Assuming I've done the math right… the risk is more than two orders of magnitude smaller than what you came up with. > Partner violence appears to account for ~34% of violence against women[2] (but vs. 6% for men) And this is sort of the point of the comment higher up: when you cut the stat this way, it seems like men are wildly dangerous creeps. But it is a statistic comparing one group to another group. We need to instead look at the absolute rate of partner violence to decide if men are on the whole violent murders or so, and there, the overall risk is low. [1]: https://dataunodc.un.org/dp-intentional-homicide-victims https://dataunodc.un.org/dp-intentional-homicide-victims [2]: https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021 https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offende... [3]: (I've assumed a round population of 340M for the US, with 50/50 gender, just an approximation.)

adolph 1y ago
> when you cut the stat this way, it seems like men are wildly dangerous creeps. Not exactly. The statistics didn't specify the gender identity of the perpetuator, just the relationship to the victim and the gender identity of the victim.