That's an interesting way to look at it. Aren't layoffs a version of that? Are we seeing any evidence that folks who have been let go from Intel have resulted

That's an interesting way to look at it. Aren't layoffs a version of that? Are we seeing any evidence that folks who have been let go from Intel have resulted in spin-offs and startups? I know at least one person who went to work at Nvidia from Intel but that is neither of those things.