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Those are incredible stats. As a vegan who uses LLMs at work frequently, I would love to have the source as well :)

by plants 1y ago

j-pb 1y ago
- https://mistral.ai/news/our-contribution-to-a-global-environmental-standard-for-ai - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1201677/greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-major-food-products/ - https://www.statista.com/chart/9483/how-thirsty-is-our-food/ - https://blog.samaltman.com/the-gentle-singularity - https://x.com/sama/status/1890820962993533232 You got to do the calculations yourself though.
- plants 1y ago
  Wow, thanks. I’m even coming up with 500K chatGPT queries for the amount of energy consumed as a KG of beef, though I might have moved a decimal place somewhere - feel free to check my math :) “average query uses about 0.34 watt-hours of energy” - or 0.00034MWH Using this calculator: https://www.epa.gov/energy/greenhouse-gas-equivalencies-calculator#results https://www.epa.gov/energy/greenhouse-gas-equivalencies-calc... - in my zip, 0.0002KG of CO2 per MWH. (Though, I suppose it depends more on the zip where they’re doing inference, however this translation didn’t seem to vary much when I tried other zips) Then, 99.48KG/0.0002KG= 497,400 chatGPT queries worth of CO2 per KG of beef? Thanks for sharing!
  - j-pb 1y ago
    `0.00034MWH`should probably be kilo not mega, but I think you still did it correctly :D I think I used Btu (thermal units) in my calculation, so I only calculated actual energy expenditure for my 60.000 queries result. But you are right, a better metric might be to use CO2-equivalent, because cows emit a lot of methane, whereas chatbots don't. 99.48KG / 0.228kg/kq = 436,315 queries per kg of beef. Yup checks out!
JimDabell 1y ago
This is a good article on the subject: > Using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment — https://andymasley.substack.com/p/individual-ai-use-is-not-bad-for https://andymasley.substack.com/p/individual-ai-use-is-not-b... He’s done some good followup articles as well: https://andymasley.substack.com/s/ai-and-the-environment https://andymasley.substack.com/s/ai-and-the-environment

Those are incredible stats. As a vegan who uses LLMs at work frequently, I would love to have the source as well :)

by plants 1y ago

Those are incredible stats. As a vegan who uses LLMs at work frequently, I would love to have the source as well :)

j-pb 1y ago

- https://mistral.ai/news/our-contribution-to-a-global-environmental-standard-for-ai - https://www.statista.com/statistics/1201677/greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-major-food-products/ - https://www.statista.com/chart/9483/how-thirsty-is-our-food/ - https://blog.samaltman.com/the-gentle-singularity - https://x.com/sama/status/1890820962993533232 You got to do the calculations yourself though.

plants 1y ago
Wow, thanks. I’m even coming up with 500K chatGPT queries for the amount of energy consumed as a KG of beef, though I might have moved a decimal place somewhere - feel free to check my math :) “average query uses about 0.34 watt-hours of energy” - or 0.00034MWH Using this calculator: https://www.epa.gov/energy/greenhouse-gas-equivalencies-calculator#results https://www.epa.gov/energy/greenhouse-gas-equivalencies-calc... - in my zip, 0.0002KG of CO2 per MWH. (Though, I suppose it depends more on the zip where they’re doing inference, however this translation didn’t seem to vary much when I tried other zips) Then, 99.48KG/0.0002KG= 497,400 chatGPT queries worth of CO2 per KG of beef? Thanks for sharing!
- j-pb 1y ago
  `0.00034MWH`should probably be kilo not mega, but I think you still did it correctly :D I think I used Btu (thermal units) in my calculation, so I only calculated actual energy expenditure for my 60.000 queries result. But you are right, a better metric might be to use CO2-equivalent, because cows emit a lot of methane, whereas chatbots don't. 99.48KG / 0.228kg/kq = 436,315 queries per kg of beef. Yup checks out!

JimDabell 1y ago

This is a good article on the subject: > Using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment — https://andymasley.substack.com/p/individual-ai-use-is-not-bad-for https://andymasley.substack.com/p/individual-ai-use-is-not-b... He’s done some good followup articles as well: https://andymasley.substack.com/s/ai-and-the-environment https://andymasley.substack.com/s/ai-and-the-environment