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Calling it anti-competitive ignores the reality: Apple built and maintains the entire iOS ecosystem (hardware, software, security, developer tools, everything).
by ArtificialAI 1y ago
Calling it anti-competitive ignores the reality: Apple built and maintains the entire iOS ecosystem (hardware, software, security, developer tools, everything). The new EU-compliant model does allow sideloading and external payments, but with reasonable fees to help support that infrastructure. That’s not abuse; it’s Apple defending the integrity of its platform while still giving developers and users more choice. No one is forced to use iOS, but if you do, it’s fair that Apple sets the terms for its own system.
- ktallett 1y agoApple gets payment when people buy their phones, are you suggesting that the cost of those things are not built into that cost? Especially considering how much they make on certain things such as storage increases?
- _mlbt 1y agoThe hardware purchase is a one time purchase, the App Store infrastructure expenses are ongoing.
- scarface_74 1y agoPeople keep their phones for multiple years and Apple supports the phone with iOS operating system and security patches for 7+ years.
- wpm 1y agoThat can be true and also be paid for by the cost of the phone.
- scarface_74 1y agoWould you write software, sell it to someone and promise support for 7 years?
- freedomben 1y agoIf the ongoing costs are a problem, they should charge a subscription to have continued access to the app store. Or a subscription fee for their operating system updates.
- scarface_74 1y agoThey did that for iPod Touches because of financial reporting requirements from 2007-2009. So it would be better if prople didn’t get security updates and app makers had to support more operating systems like Android?
- ktallett 1y agoAre you suggesting the cost of an iPhone is not able to cover the minimal updates made to the phone over the lifetime of it? How do the justify the cost of the Mac App Store fees? When they put zero effort in to it?
- scarface_74 1y agoSeeing that no one is forced to use the Mac App Store, yet some people still chose to, telld you they they get value out of using it Again, would you write software and support it for seven years without any compensation?
- ktallett 1y agoI did used to write software professionally and no, we traditionally charged per update but each update was significant and worthwhile. Any bugs or safety issues were of course fixed for free. We never moved to the subscription model which has in my view instigated these methods. I am not of the view each iOS update is significant. Now I occasionally have to write software for my current role but it isn't the main job and I release it for free as it is quite niche and I would prefer it is out there.