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1984: U.S. withdraws. 2003: U.S. rejoins. 2011: U.S. stops paying dues after Palestine joins. 2017: U.S. announces withdrawal (effective end of 2018). 2023: U.S
by nsypteras 1y ago
1984: U.S. withdraws.
2003: U.S. rejoins.
2011: U.S. stops paying dues after Palestine joins.
2017: U.S. announces withdrawal (effective end of 2018).
2023: U.S. rejoins, pledges to repay dues.
2025: U.S announces withdrawal
Seems to be a revolving door
- DSingularity 1y agoCycle of politician appeasing their genocidal masters until the government start to realize what that means exactly at which point we pull back to humanity.
- bad_haircut72 1y agoIf you abandon it completely something else might rise up - but funding/participating only up to a point, it works to suppress it - see Ukraine aid policies aswell
- Tostino 1y agoLook at the years, and see how they match up with the administration in power...
- rs186 1y agoMakes me wonder if officials at UNESCO even cares about the decision. "Oh that again?" Probably already used to this.
- rgblambda 1y agoSimilar to the Israeli ambassador being recalled from Dublin. They mean it as a big dramatic statement but they've done it that many times it's lost all significance. She only gets reinstated again for the purpose of making another dramatic exit.
- lawlessone 1y agoThey always send their most incompetent ambassadors to Dublin, ones that put their foot in their own mouth.
- rgblambda 1y agoI suppose looking at it from the Israeli government's perspective, Ireland is a very safe place for Israelis and Jewish people in general, but the public and government are vocal on Israel's actions and there's no defence/intelligence links between the two countries. Trade links are on the European level. There'll never be a reason for them to send a skilled diplomat, so may as well send a shit stirrer who's only good for causing controversy.
- lawlessone 1y agowhen you put that way its pretty logical.
- SllX 1y agoThey’re never happy about the loss of money. For UN institutions, the US usually contributes a theoretical cap of about 22% but in real terms I think it’s more like a quarter of their annual budget or a little over in some cases. When we’re not paying, that’s a lot of money that UNESCO isn’t getting.
- overfeed 1y agoPredictably, if/when China becomes the premier funder of UN organizations, there will be a lot of grousing about it by US politicians. The amount of soft-power being trashed is astounding
- SllX 1y agoWe’re the ones seeking to cap our contributions. The formula currently doesn’t allow for any one country to pay more than 22% with America the only one actually paying that much, save for the institutions we’ve cut off. For UN peacekeeping we’re actually assessed at 27% but Congress capped that to 25% back in 1993. https://betterworldcampaign.org/us-funding-for-the-un/un-budget-formula https://betterworldcampaign.org/us-funding-for-the-un/un-bud... If any other country wants to step in and fill the gap, I don’t think Congress will care.
- overfeed 1y ago> If any other country wants to step in and fill the gap, I don’t think Congress will care "Countering the PRC Malign Influence Fund Authorization Act of 2023[1]" says otherwise. 1. https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1157/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1157...
- SllX 1y agoAll of our foreign policy prior to January 20th 2025 is in a state of flux. Officially, Congress cares, but the first 7 or so months of this year have been enlightening in a strange way, and with our President taking the lead, there is a strong possibility that Congress will not care if the possibility of the PRC paying more comes up in any policy discussions.
- rjzzleep 1y agoThey're getting ready to bomb Iran's UNESCO sites. They did bomb several UNESCO sites in Yugoslavia and other places while they left. Their boy Grossi also told the whole world that there is a big target on a UNESCO site a short while back.
- selimthegrim 1y agoWhich site in Yugoslavia did they bomb?
- dmix 1y agoNATO bombings damaged a Kosovo (post Yugoslavia) church in 1999 that was later added to UNESCO in 2006 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gra%C4%8Danica_Monastery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gra%C4%8Danica_Monastery
- scantron4 1y agoSo its a time traveling crime?
- whynotmaybe 1y agoHistory mismatch/Mandela effect? Some of the bombed sites were already known as culturally significant but not recognized by unesco yet, like Novi Sad that became a unesco creative city in 2023.
- dmix 1y agoUNESCO Creative cities are very different from UNESCO world heritage sites.
- paulddraper 1y agoTbf, if you remove the Biden 2023 pledge, the rest makes sense: In the two decades between 1984 and 2003, UNESCO implemented a number of reforms in management+transparency+politicization, and the U.S. returned. Then Palestine was admitted, and the U.S. left.
- yencabulator 1y ago1984 withdraw Reagan 2003 rejoin Bush 2011 protest Obama (forced by law) 2017 withdraw Trump 2023 rejoin Biden 2025 withdraw Trump Kinda tracks, except for the Bush one.