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There are a lot of things that are "perfectly legal" to do. Doesn't mean that, in practice, law enforcement would necessarily take the most extreme legal actio

by unsui 1y ago

There are a lot of things that are "perfectly legal" to do. Doesn't mean that, in practice, law enforcement would necessarily take the most extreme legal action possible. This is a new development (well, new-ish for many communities... I imagine predominatly-black communities have always experience this) whereby LE is explicitly instructed to look for any legal course of action to punitively enforce the law (rather than using a more judicious interpretation, which was more in line with the spirit of many of these regulations). So yes, technically, law-abiding citizens should always xxxx. Does that mean that, in real life, folks always do this? Only if they are in a paranoid state whereby LE maliciously enforces the law for any minor violation and enforces overwhelming (often illegal) responses to these infractions.

haiku2077 1y ago
> Only if they are in a paranoid state whereby LE maliciously enforces the law for any minor violation and enforces overwhelming (often illegal) responses to these infractions. ICE operates in every state. e.g. US citizens are being jailed in California (https://apnews.com/article/us-army-veteran-immigration-raid-53cb22251a01599a0c4d1a8d5650d050 https://apnews.com/article/us-army-veteran-immigration-raid-...)
- amanaplanacanal 1y ago
  It sounds like the current administration is specifically targeting democratic stronghold states, but I don't know if that means you would be any safer in Republican majority states.
  - lazyasciiart 1y ago
    Generally no, because those are more likely to have state or local government employees working on ICE’s behalf. For instance in Florida a weigh station employee said they were calling ICE on people who looked (and sounded?) Hispanic. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/07/09/attorneys-say-they-cant-see-immigration-clients-at-alligator-alcatraz/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/07/09/attor...
    - haiku2077 1y ago
      Reading that article, it reads more like the person skipped the weigh station and got pulled over by the highway patrol cop usually at the weigh station. Weigh stations will often have a patrol car sitting by the highway that pulls over anyone speeding or who needs to stop at the weigh station but didn't. So CBP (not ICE) was called by a highway officer. Still to your point of a state government authority calling the feds because someone they interacted with looked Hispanic.
      - lazyasciiart 1y ago
        Interesting, it seems like you read “was stopped” as an action, and I had read it as a state.

by unsui 1y ago

haiku2077 1y ago

> Only if they are in a paranoid state whereby LE maliciously enforces the law for any minor violation and enforces overwhelming (often illegal) responses to these infractions. ICE operates in every state. e.g. US citizens are being jailed in California (https://apnews.com/article/us-army-veteran-immigration-raid-53cb22251a01599a0c4d1a8d5650d050 https://apnews.com/article/us-army-veteran-immigration-raid-...)

amanaplanacanal 1y ago
It sounds like the current administration is specifically targeting democratic stronghold states, but I don't know if that means you would be any safer in Republican majority states.
- lazyasciiart 1y ago
  Generally no, because those are more likely to have state or local government employees working on ICE’s behalf. For instance in Florida a weigh station employee said they were calling ICE on people who looked (and sounded?) Hispanic. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/07/09/attorneys-say-they-cant-see-immigration-clients-at-alligator-alcatraz/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/07/09/attor...
  - haiku2077 1y ago
    Reading that article, it reads more like the person skipped the weigh station and got pulled over by the highway patrol cop usually at the weigh station. Weigh stations will often have a patrol car sitting by the highway that pulls over anyone speeding or who needs to stop at the weigh station but didn't. So CBP (not ICE) was called by a highway officer. Still to your point of a state government authority calling the feds because someone they interacted with looked Hispanic.
    - lazyasciiart 1y ago
      Interesting, it seems like you read “was stopped” as an action, and I had read it as a state.