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It really felt like propaganda as a kid. Made me think reading was probably a scam.
by throwing_away 1y ago
It really felt like propaganda as a kid.
Made me think reading was probably a scam.
- esseph 1y agoSure was buddy Big Book out to get u (How the fuck did you know what "propaganda" was before you could even read btw?)
- throwing_away 1y agoThat was just the vibe. It was mandatory watching by the state education program. It had product placement and a clear message. I mean, I feel like it would take more education to not see it as propaganda. I didn't like The Magic Schoolbus either though. Same reason. Oh, and Scholastic everything.
- sitzkrieg 1y agoi felt like a lot of my teachers kept it handy in the "fucking hungover" pocket too
- tclancy 1y agoWell, good work avoiding that scam. I guess. Does this make you Goofus or Gallanyt?
- pbhjpbhj 1y agoI've only seen Magic School Bus as an adult, but I don't recall any product placement? They seem fun and educational - like Storybots. Only problem I have with those shows for kids is the lack of real people.
- omeid2 1y agoI am always fascinated by this degree of assurance and absolute lack of scepticism. In what way, do you think, a show can have no room for critical viewing? Does being related to "reading or books" sufficient for such unquestionable and noncritical acceptance? Or was something else about it that makes it so cocksure good?
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- palmfacehn 1y ago"...when one assumes that all of the wealthiest people on the planet who share the least (and own the media, publishers, etc.) are all committed collectivist..." I will not engage with "woke right" or all of your points, much of which appears to be sarcasm. However, I will note that historically collectivist movements such as the early Progressives around the dawn of the 20th century, were championed by wealthy elites. Looking back it is easy to see how the centralization of authority in this era benefited the elite classes disproportionately. So, yes, I agree that much of the messaging for collectivist movements does focus on the perceived victim classes. However, that is only the surface level marketing. When examining the historical record, critics generally cite the outcomes rather than the slogans. Hope this helps to add perspective to this contentious issue.
- gonzobonzo 1y agoWatching Mr. Rogers as an adult, I was surprised by how opinionated the show could be. There was an episode where one of the puppets was trying to teach a child puppet to read before they entered school, and it was presented as a extremely harsh and mean way to treat a child. A human actor comes in and starts scolding the puppet that it's not necessary to teach the kids to read before school and that she needs to stop. Later, Mr. Rogers talks with an actual kindergarten teacher, and they discuss how it's completely unnecessary to teach kids to read before they enter kindergarten. It felt like it was indoctrinating kids into believing that the right way to raise them was the way that Fred Rogers preferred. There's this strange point of view that once it's decided that something is good and it's being made by good people, it's absurd to look at it critically and anyone who does should be mocked.
- vintermann 1y agoAsk a parent! Kids can be very wary of attempts to "shape" them. Of course they're not going to know the word propaganda, but the instinct to detect manipulation (and react negatively to it) goes deep.
- TeMPOraL 1y agoIndeed. Also, small kids are excellent bullshit detectors. They can tell when they're being given non-sequiturs, or explanations are inconsistent, and they (rightfully) see this as problem and are confused when such things come from sources they trust (e.g. parents).
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