7 ms·

what're you finding better than cursor now?

by ttrmw 1y ago

rock_hard 1y ago
Devin is light years ahead of Cursor. It’s not even the same category! I stopped writing code by hand almost entirely and my output (measured in landed PRs) has been 10x And when I write code myself then it’s gnarly stuff and I want AI to get out of my way…so I just use Webstorm
andrewmutz 1y ago
Cline is absolutely fantastic when you combine it with Sonnet 4. Always use plan mode first and always have it write tests first (have it do TDD). It changed me from a skeptic to a believer and now I use it full time.
- v5v3 1y ago
  How much is it costing you?
  - jjmarr 1y ago
    As much as you theoretically want to spend, since it's pay-per-use. I spend $200/month by using Sonnet 4. Could be higher if you want to use Opus.
    - macrolime 1y ago
      You can use Claude Code as a provider if you want it subscription based https://docs.cline.bot/provider-config/claude-code https://docs.cline.bot/provider-config/claude-code
  - ewoodrich 1y ago
    I use Roo Code (Cline fork) and spend roughly $15-30/mo by subscribing to Github Copilot Pro for $10/mo for unlimited use of GPT-4.1 via the VS Code LM API, and a handful of premium credits a month (I use Gemini 2.5 Pro for the most part). Once I max out the premium credits I pay-as-you-go for Gemini 2.5 Pro via OpenRouter, but always try to one shot with GPT 4.1 first for regular tasks, or if I am certain it's asking too much, use 2.5 Pro to create a Plan.md and then switch to 4.1 to implement it which works 90% of the time for me (web dev, nothing too demanding). With the different configurable modes Roo Code adds to Cline I've set up the model defaults so it's zero effort switching between them, and have been playing around with custom rules so Roo could best guess whether it should one shot with 4.1 or create a plan with 2.5 Pro first but haven't nailed it down yet.
    - greggh 1y ago
      Looking at Cline, wondering what the real selling points for Roo Code are. Any chance you can say what exactly made you go with Roo Code instead of Cline?
      - ewoodrich 1y ago
        Cline has two modes (Plan and Act) which work pretty well but Roo Code has 5 modes by default. (Code, Ask, Architect, Orchestrator, Debug) and it's designed so that users can add custom modes. e.g. I added a Code (simple) mode with instructions about the scale/complexity of tasks it can handle or decide to pass it to Code for a better model. I also changed the Architect mode to evaluate whether to redirect the user to Code or Code (simple) after generating a plan. Roo Code just has a lot more config exposed to the user which I really appreciate. When I was using Cline I would run into minor irritating quirks that I wished I can change but couldn't vs. Roo where the odds are pretty good there are some knobs you could turn to modify that part of your workflow.
g42gregory 1y ago
Claude Code with Pro, Max100, or Max200 subscriptions. Works with any IDE including none. For the time being, nothing comes close, at least for me.
- 6Az4Mj4D 1y ago
  Can you please share your Claude usage workflow? I use Github copilot and often tend to be frustrated. It messes up old things while making new. I use Claude 4 model in GH CP.
  - fzzzy 1y ago
    I use github copilot chat right now. First I use ask mode to ask it a question about the state of the codebase outlining my current understanding of the condition of the code. "I'm trying to x, I think the code currently does y." I include a few source files that I am talking about. I correct any misconceptions about the plan the llm may have and suggest stylistic changes to the code. Then once the plan seems correct, I switch to agent mode and ask it to implement the change on the codebase. Then I'll look through the changes and decide if it is correct. Sometimes can just run the code to decide if it is correct. Any compilation errors are pasted right back in to the chat in agent mode. Once the feature is done, commit the changes. Repeat for features.
    - 6Az4Mj4D 1y ago
      Does it remember context from chat mode and when you switch to agent mode?
      - addandsubtract 1y ago
        Yes. I think it used to be separate tabs, but now chat/agent mode is just a toggle. After discussing a concept, you can just switch to agent mode and tell it to "implement the discussed plan."
      - Paradigma11 1y ago
        Yes, it can't change between edit and ask/agent without losing context but ask <-> agent is no problem. You can also change to your custom chat modes https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/copilot/chat/chat-modes https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/copilot/chat/chat-modes without losing context. At least that's what I just did in VSCode Insiders. Here are some nice copilot resources: https://github.com/github/awesome-copilot https://github.com/github/awesome-copilot Also, I am using tons of markdown documents for planning, results, research.... This makes it easy to get new agent sessions or yourself up to context.

what're you finding better than cursor now?

by ttrmw 1y ago

what're you finding better than cursor now?

Devin is light years ahead of Cursor. It’s not even the same category! I stopped writing code by hand almost entirely and my output (measured in landed PRs) has been 10x And when I write code myself then it’s gnarly stuff and I want AI to get out of my way…so I just use Webstorm

andrewmutz 1y ago

Cline is absolutely fantastic when you combine it with Sonnet 4. Always use plan mode first and always have it write tests first (have it do TDD). It changed me from a skeptic to a believer and now I use it full time.

v5v3 1y ago
How much is it costing you?
- jjmarr 1y ago
  As much as you theoretically want to spend, since it's pay-per-use. I spend $200/month by using Sonnet 4. Could be higher if you want to use Opus.
  - macrolime 1y ago
    You can use Claude Code as a provider if you want it subscription based https://docs.cline.bot/provider-config/claude-code https://docs.cline.bot/provider-config/claude-code
- ewoodrich 1y ago
  I use Roo Code (Cline fork) and spend roughly $15-30/mo by subscribing to Github Copilot Pro for $10/mo for unlimited use of GPT-4.1 via the VS Code LM API, and a handful of premium credits a month (I use Gemini 2.5 Pro for the most part). Once I max out the premium credits I pay-as-you-go for Gemini 2.5 Pro via OpenRouter, but always try to one shot with GPT 4.1 first for regular tasks, or if I am certain it's asking too much, use 2.5 Pro to create a Plan.md and then switch to 4.1 to implement it which works 90% of the time for me (web dev, nothing too demanding). With the different configurable modes Roo Code adds to Cline I've set up the model defaults so it's zero effort switching between them, and have been playing around with custom rules so Roo could best guess whether it should one shot with 4.1 or create a plan with 2.5 Pro first but haven't nailed it down yet.
  - greggh 1y ago
    Looking at Cline, wondering what the real selling points for Roo Code are. Any chance you can say what exactly made you go with Roo Code instead of Cline?
    - ewoodrich 1y ago
      Cline has two modes (Plan and Act) which work pretty well but Roo Code has 5 modes by default. (Code, Ask, Architect, Orchestrator, Debug) and it's designed so that users can add custom modes. e.g. I added a Code (simple) mode with instructions about the scale/complexity of tasks it can handle or decide to pass it to Code for a better model. I also changed the Architect mode to evaluate whether to redirect the user to Code or Code (simple) after generating a plan. Roo Code just has a lot more config exposed to the user which I really appreciate. When I was using Cline I would run into minor irritating quirks that I wished I can change but couldn't vs. Roo where the odds are pretty good there are some knobs you could turn to modify that part of your workflow.

g42gregory 1y ago

Claude Code with Pro, Max100, or Max200 subscriptions. Works with any IDE including none. For the time being, nothing comes close, at least for me.

6Az4Mj4D 1y ago
Can you please share your Claude usage workflow? I use Github copilot and often tend to be frustrated. It messes up old things while making new. I use Claude 4 model in GH CP.
- fzzzy 1y ago
  I use github copilot chat right now. First I use ask mode to ask it a question about the state of the codebase outlining my current understanding of the condition of the code. "I'm trying to x, I think the code currently does y." I include a few source files that I am talking about. I correct any misconceptions about the plan the llm may have and suggest stylistic changes to the code. Then once the plan seems correct, I switch to agent mode and ask it to implement the change on the codebase. Then I'll look through the changes and decide if it is correct. Sometimes can just run the code to decide if it is correct. Any compilation errors are pasted right back in to the chat in agent mode. Once the feature is done, commit the changes. Repeat for features.
  - 6Az4Mj4D 1y ago
    Does it remember context from chat mode and when you switch to agent mode?
    - addandsubtract 1y ago
      Yes. I think it used to be separate tabs, but now chat/agent mode is just a toggle. After discussing a concept, you can just switch to agent mode and tell it to "implement the discussed plan."
    - Paradigma11 1y ago
      Yes, it can't change between edit and ask/agent without losing context but ask <-> agent is no problem. You can also change to your custom chat modes https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/copilot/chat/chat-modes https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/copilot/chat/chat-modes without losing context. At least that's what I just did in VSCode Insiders. Here are some nice copilot resources: https://github.com/github/awesome-copilot https://github.com/github/awesome-copilot Also, I am using tons of markdown documents for planning, results, research.... This makes it easy to get new agent sessions or yourself up to context.