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Heh, yeah. Look at that company. A 20 years old dude comes with some hipster unproven technology and the boss jumps at it. They are doomed to fail.

javierhonduco 14y ago
Every technology gets proven with its use, investing time, great loads of effort, sometimes money, and courage. Last one it's the most important for me :) Btw, did you know any technology that was already proven when it wasn't known? IMHO that's a part of the mainstreaming process, and almost everything we have today has past through it.
batista 14y ago
Unproven in what sense? This is not some novel academic concept. It's a Ruby port on the Obj-C runtime. If it builds and runs the app, there is absolutely nothing to be proven. Also, "a 20 years old dude comes with some hipster unproven technology"? Isn't this how Apple for one was founded? Not to mention Yahoo, Google and Facebook...
cnp 14y ago
RubyMotion changed the way our entire agency operates: we haven't outsourced a single app in months. It's been the best thing to happen to us, hands down.
- flatline3 14y ago
  You could have also just learned how to write Objective-C. It'd be more fair to your clients.
  - cnp 14y ago
    How so? These responses are quite simply FUD.
    - flatline3 14y ago
      For the same reason we don't use MonoTouch on client projects; it would creat a maintenance and hiring nightmare for our clients. You jumped on RubyMotion out of laziness or inability to learn something new.
      - cnp 14y ago
        I absolutely believe that the process of developing an app with RubyMotion is revolutionary in terms of mobile development. The flexibility of Ruby paired with the interoperability with Obj-C is nothing but a win.
        flatline3 14y ago
        Says the individual that had to farm out mobile development until you could use a language with which you were already familiar. There's little I've seen in RubyMotion that provides a substantive improvement on ObjC, and a lot that is worse than ObjC.
        cnp 14y ago
        It just depends on what you want to do. For example, if I wanted to develop a 3D shooter game do you think I would do it in Objective-C, C++, etc? No -- I'd use Unity or Stage3D and then compile to the target. For 90% of the fairly-standard apps that we'll ever develop, the overhead and headaches and needless code-bloat that Objective-C brings to the project is only a reminder of the elegance of Ruby and the beauty of simplicity. (It's also a reminder that you'll no longer need to budget for XCode crashes every hour.)
        hans_olo 14y ago
        > overhead and headaches and needless code-bloat care to elaborate that? sounds like you are a clueless fucking idiot with a hip hat. ruby motion is a 1:1 projection of the "bloated" cocoa API you are whining about. only ruby's foo.do_shitWithKeyword(blah, anotherKeyword: idiot) syntax makes it really ugly and retarded. > the elegance of Ruby and the beauty of simplicity god, seems like you got a fucking huge brain tumor ... or are you really that retarded? drill holes into ruby and fuck it ...
- hans_olo 14y ago
  Uh, reading that just hurts.

javierhonduco 14y ago

Every technology gets proven with its use, investing time, great loads of effort, sometimes money, and courage. Last one it's the most important for me :) Btw, did you know any technology that was already proven when it wasn't known? IMHO that's a part of the mainstreaming process, and almost everything we have today has past through it.

batista 14y ago

Unproven in what sense? This is not some novel academic concept. It's a Ruby port on the Obj-C runtime. If it builds and runs the app, there is absolutely nothing to be proven. Also, "a 20 years old dude comes with some hipster unproven technology"? Isn't this how Apple for one was founded? Not to mention Yahoo, Google and Facebook...

cnp 14y ago

RubyMotion changed the way our entire agency operates: we haven't outsourced a single app in months. It's been the best thing to happen to us, hands down.

flatline3 14y ago
You could have also just learned how to write Objective-C. It'd be more fair to your clients.
- cnp 14y ago
  How so? These responses are quite simply FUD.
  - flatline3 14y ago
    For the same reason we don't use MonoTouch on client projects; it would creat a maintenance and hiring nightmare for our clients. You jumped on RubyMotion out of laziness or inability to learn something new.
    - cnp 14y ago
      I absolutely believe that the process of developing an app with RubyMotion is revolutionary in terms of mobile development. The flexibility of Ruby paired with the interoperability with Obj-C is nothing but a win.
      - flatline3 14y ago
        Says the individual that had to farm out mobile development until you could use a language with which you were already familiar. There's little I've seen in RubyMotion that provides a substantive improvement on ObjC, and a lot that is worse than ObjC.
        cnp 14y ago
        It just depends on what you want to do. For example, if I wanted to develop a 3D shooter game do you think I would do it in Objective-C, C++, etc? No -- I'd use Unity or Stage3D and then compile to the target. For 90% of the fairly-standard apps that we'll ever develop, the overhead and headaches and needless code-bloat that Objective-C brings to the project is only a reminder of the elegance of Ruby and the beauty of simplicity. (It's also a reminder that you'll no longer need to budget for XCode crashes every hour.)
        hans_olo 14y ago
        > overhead and headaches and needless code-bloat care to elaborate that? sounds like you are a clueless fucking idiot with a hip hat. ruby motion is a 1:1 projection of the "bloated" cocoa API you are whining about. only ruby's foo.do_shitWithKeyword(blah, anotherKeyword: idiot) syntax makes it really ugly and retarded. > the elegance of Ruby and the beauty of simplicity god, seems like you got a fucking huge brain tumor ... or are you really that retarded? drill holes into ruby and fuck it ...
hans_olo 14y ago
Uh, reading that just hurts.