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Unless autonomous drones happen, Russia has proved fiber drones are the way to go. Not saying jammers wouldn’t be needed, but Russia had a lot of success using

by clvx 1y ago

Unless autonomous drones happen, Russia has proved fiber drones are the way to go. Not saying jammers wouldn’t be needed, but Russia had a lot of success using fiber drones to retake Kursk.

bamboozled 1y ago
Are you implying Ukraine left Kurst because of fiber optic drones? Because I can assure you, that's got nothing to do with it. I can also assure you that Ukraine using fiber topic, semi and fully autonomous drones with great effectiveness against the invaders.
- pydry 1y ago
  It had a lot to do with it. Kursk was a heavily forested area where the Ukrainians largely had small troop deployments hiding under tree cover where fiber optic drones would hunt them down. There are thousands of videos of this in Kursk alone. Ukraine are able to set up "shielded corridors" to protect critical supply roads from fiber optic drone attack behind the front lines in the donbass but in kursk they were exposed and defenseless.
- clvx 1y ago
  I’m not implying that but it was one of the first places where they used it extensively.
  - kranke155 1y ago
    Fiber optic is just an adaptation. The war has been full of them. The logical end step seems to be autonomy. There is nothing special about fiber optic, it’s just a way to avoid EW.
topspin 1y ago
> Unless autonomous drones happen Autonomous drones are an inevitability. Enormous force multiplication is available with autonomy. We're talking about a few people, or perhaps one person, defeating battalions. The truth is autonomous weapons have been in use for a long time now. Mark 60 CAPTOR anti-submarine mines (circa 1979) autonomously identified enemies and launched a torpedo to destroy submarines.
krona 1y ago
The drones Ukraine used in operation Spiderweb reportedly had "terminal guidance" software for the last mile of their mission. A drone video intercepted by the russians was released showing this in action: https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/how_ukrainian_fpv_drones_with_automated_terminal_guidance_work-14687.html https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/how_ukrainian_fpv_...
- clvx 1y ago
  Probably trained for a specific location and targets but if you see how fast people adapt in the war of drones, I feel drones would need constant updates which might not be possible in certain frontlines. A tank at the beginning of the Ukraine invasion doesn’t look not even close to what they look now with all the anti drone add ons.
esseph 1y ago
*for some tasks and mission sets

by clvx 1y ago

Unless autonomous drones happen, Russia has proved fiber drones are the way to go. Not saying jammers wouldn’t be needed, but Russia had a lot of success using fiber drones to retake Kursk.

bamboozled 1y ago

Are you implying Ukraine left Kurst because of fiber optic drones? Because I can assure you, that's got nothing to do with it. I can also assure you that Ukraine using fiber topic, semi and fully autonomous drones with great effectiveness against the invaders.

pydry 1y ago
It had a lot to do with it. Kursk was a heavily forested area where the Ukrainians largely had small troop deployments hiding under tree cover where fiber optic drones would hunt them down. There are thousands of videos of this in Kursk alone. Ukraine are able to set up "shielded corridors" to protect critical supply roads from fiber optic drone attack behind the front lines in the donbass but in kursk they were exposed and defenseless.
clvx 1y ago
I’m not implying that but it was one of the first places where they used it extensively.
- kranke155 1y ago
  Fiber optic is just an adaptation. The war has been full of them. The logical end step seems to be autonomy. There is nothing special about fiber optic, it’s just a way to avoid EW.

topspin 1y ago

> Unless autonomous drones happen Autonomous drones are an inevitability. Enormous force multiplication is available with autonomy. We're talking about a few people, or perhaps one person, defeating battalions. The truth is autonomous weapons have been in use for a long time now. Mark 60 CAPTOR anti-submarine mines (circa 1979) autonomously identified enemies and launched a torpedo to destroy submarines.

krona 1y ago

The drones Ukraine used in operation Spiderweb reportedly had "terminal guidance" software for the last mile of their mission. A drone video intercepted by the russians was released showing this in action: https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/how_ukrainian_fpv_drones_with_automated_terminal_guidance_work-14687.html https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/how_ukrainian_fpv_...

clvx 1y ago
Probably trained for a specific location and targets but if you see how fast people adapt in the war of drones, I feel drones would need constant updates which might not be possible in certain frontlines. A tank at the beginning of the Ukraine invasion doesn’t look not even close to what they look now with all the anti drone add ons.

esseph 1y ago

*for some tasks and mission sets