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Bluesky prioritized safe-space culture over free speech and decentralization. Interesting experiment but that's not what a Twitter replacement needs to be.

krapp 1y ago
Anyone looking for "free speech" can already find it on Twitter in abundance, they don't need a replacement. The only draw to being a Twitter replacement is not being like Twitter, which means not being a safe space for Nazi and Nazi-adjacent content.
- tkel 1y ago
  Unless you're an anti-fascist ... Musk made sure to personally ban the large anti-fascist accounts immediately upon taking over twitter Also the word "cisgender" is banned
  - krapp 1y ago
    Yes, I'm intentionally being facetious using "free speech" with the same implication that most people complaining about the lack of "free speech" on Bluesky or Mastodon do, which is to say the freedom to post racist right-wing propaganda and hate speech without consequence.
    - xigoi 1y ago
      No, I want actual free speech, where Nazis are allowed to freely post their nonsense and I’m allowed to freely laugh at them. And Twitter is not that. > If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all. —Noam Chomsky
- andrewinardeer 1y ago
  Yes, Nazis exist there. Nazis are also finding safe spaces on Reddit, Wikipedia, Telegram, Tinder and virtually all other large social sites if you care to look. Nazi safe space isn't exclusive to X.
  - janice1999 1y ago
    On Reddit? If anything its moderation can be heavy handed.
  - krapp 1y ago
    Elon Musk sympathizes with Nazis and shares their views and his platform has been explicitly designed to cater to the extreme right and amplify that speech while purging the "woke mind virus." When the Nazis show up to your bar and you don't kick them out, you have a Nazi bar. Elon didn't just not kick them out, he put up a big sign that said "Nazis drink free." Let's not pretend the site formerly known as Twitter is a politically or culturally neutral space in this regard.
  - tonyhart7 1y ago
    You mention Nazis a lot do you know even Nazi is, how can people be "Nazi" according to you??
    - esseph 1y ago
      Ask grok, buddy. It loves that topic.
      - tonyhart7 1y ago
        > people tell the AI to call itself mecha hitler > Grok doing the user request > people call Grok nazi/racist etc It literally debunked
        esseph 1y ago
        I'm sorry, what was debunked?
- FreeTrade 1y ago
  Only a fully decentralized system can guarantee free speech. And yes, that even includes letting the Israelis have their say too.
  - krapp 1y ago
    Freedom of speech must include freedom from speech or it isn't free. Israelis can say whatever they like, I'm not obligated to listen to them.
    - FreeTrade 1y ago
      Agreed. That's what the mute button is for. There is no conflict with free speech and a mute button.
- xigoi 1y ago
  > Anyone looking for "free speech" can already find it on Twitter in abundance, they don't need a replacement. From what I’ve heard, Elon deletes a lot of stuff he disagrees with.

krapp 1y ago

Anyone looking for "free speech" can already find it on Twitter in abundance, they don't need a replacement. The only draw to being a Twitter replacement is not being like Twitter, which means not being a safe space for Nazi and Nazi-adjacent content.

tkel 1y ago
Unless you're an anti-fascist ... Musk made sure to personally ban the large anti-fascist accounts immediately upon taking over twitter Also the word "cisgender" is banned
- krapp 1y ago
  Yes, I'm intentionally being facetious using "free speech" with the same implication that most people complaining about the lack of "free speech" on Bluesky or Mastodon do, which is to say the freedom to post racist right-wing propaganda and hate speech without consequence.
  - xigoi 1y ago
    No, I want actual free speech, where Nazis are allowed to freely post their nonsense and I’m allowed to freely laugh at them. And Twitter is not that. > If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all. —Noam Chomsky
andrewinardeer 1y ago
Yes, Nazis exist there. Nazis are also finding safe spaces on Reddit, Wikipedia, Telegram, Tinder and virtually all other large social sites if you care to look. Nazi safe space isn't exclusive to X.
- janice1999 1y ago
  On Reddit? If anything its moderation can be heavy handed.
- krapp 1y ago
  Elon Musk sympathizes with Nazis and shares their views and his platform has been explicitly designed to cater to the extreme right and amplify that speech while purging the "woke mind virus." When the Nazis show up to your bar and you don't kick them out, you have a Nazi bar. Elon didn't just not kick them out, he put up a big sign that said "Nazis drink free." Let's not pretend the site formerly known as Twitter is a politically or culturally neutral space in this regard.
- tonyhart7 1y ago
  You mention Nazis a lot do you know even Nazi is, how can people be "Nazi" according to you??
  - esseph 1y ago
    Ask grok, buddy. It loves that topic.
    - tonyhart7 1y ago
      > people tell the AI to call itself mecha hitler > Grok doing the user request > people call Grok nazi/racist etc It literally debunked
      - esseph 1y ago
        I'm sorry, what was debunked?
FreeTrade 1y ago
Only a fully decentralized system can guarantee free speech. And yes, that even includes letting the Israelis have their say too.
- krapp 1y ago
  Freedom of speech must include freedom from speech or it isn't free. Israelis can say whatever they like, I'm not obligated to listen to them.
  - FreeTrade 1y ago
    Agreed. That's what the mute button is for. There is no conflict with free speech and a mute button.
xigoi 1y ago
> Anyone looking for "free speech" can already find it on Twitter in abundance, they don't need a replacement. From what I’ve heard, Elon deletes a lot of stuff he disagrees with.