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there has to be a way for us as a society to introduce a level of accountability into our so called "food" supply chain without the burden of regulation... perh
by prairieroadent 1y ago
there has to be a way for us as a society to introduce a level of accountability into our so called "food" supply chain without the burden of regulation... perhaps it's as simple as spending more educating our kids about agriculture
amendment: seems to be an unpopular take... my point being regulation is a workaround for a population that is worst than uneducated, miseducated, especially in regards to agriculture and "food" supply chain... if kids were provided with an actual education and not miseducated on the subject then the demand for on-demand food testing would go up, and prices for said testing would eventually go down after supply rises to meet demand increasing competition thus encouraging technological innovations to come in and lower prices
amendment ii: in a competitive market where all participants are thoroughly educated and the consumer is armed with the ability to test their food frequently then a market would likely emerge where consumers buy directly from farmers who out of market forces publish test alongside their crop
- pirate787 1y agoI support oversight with subscriptions to Consumer Reports and Consumer Labs. I do think government must play a role-- rather than regulate, just regularly test everything and publish the results and ban/recall unsafe products.
- salawat 1y ago...You mean, regulating? Literally the meaning of the word.
- doodlebugging 1y ago>ban/recall unsafe products. So you want regulations but you don't want to have to call them regulations. Pretty funny.
- downrightmike 1y agoFDA and USDA are supposed to do that. It has to be government lead, because we know business will cheat
- SoftTalker 1y agoBut government won't cheat?
- prairieroadent 1y agoyeah, it seems people don't realize the level of corruption that exists in this country... middle management is a workaround for miseducation
- hombre_fatal 1y agoIf a business is going to get away with cheating, it seems better that they also need a corrupt government in bed with them rather than just another corrupt business.
- markhahn 1y agoYes, that is correct. At least in the west, governments are actually filled with quite earnest, diligent people, not cheating. It's possible to find narrow cases where industry manages to bias government, but it's not like "ignore the lead in this turmeric".
- downrightmike 1y agoWhich is why the current admin is fighting so hard to get rid of the good people
- crazygringo 1y ago> to introduce a level of accountability... without the burden of regulation Why? What's wrong with regulation? The whole point of regulation is safety and accountability and fairness. Yes things can be over-regulated, but then the solution is to regulate properly, not over-regulate. The reason we don't have libertarian or anarchist societies is because they fundamentally can't solve the problems around safety, accountability, and fairness.
- prairieroadent 1y agomy point is that regulation is a burden, not that it isn't the next step... from my point of view regulation is a workaround for our nightmare of an education system where giving kids a proper schooling is considered dangerous and a threat to national security
- toast0 1y agoWhat sort of proper schooling allows one to detect lead in ground turmeric? I guess proper schooling would help one understand the analysis techniques, but the machines are pretty expensive and most people don't have one at home. Regulations that require food products to be regularly surveyed for heavy metals or other contaminants seem more effective than requiring every household to own and operate analysis machines. Regulations that require foods to be tracked with origin and batch information makes it a lot easier to find out where contaminants entered the system, rather than requiring kids to go around playing Carmen Sandiego. It also helps save money with recalls when there's specific evidence to include only specific batches.
- prairieroadent 1y agoif the population was thoroughly educated then I imagine most food would be bought direct from farmers with test published alongside the crop because the population understands the importance of unadulterated food and are armed with the ability to test their food cheaply... once relationships are established with farmers and food providers then the need to test becomes less frequent
- padjo 1y agoSo rather than have government do the testing and holding producers to account we get every consumer to do it? That sounds pretty inefficient.
- prairieroadent 1y agoI imagine that in a competitive market where the participants are educated that the farmers would publish tests alongside their crop and the educated consumer would understand that they should be buying direct from farmers and be processing the turmeric themselves
- markhahn 1y agoit's not about education, but rather attention. how much of your finite attention do you want to spend on extra things? most people already operate under extreme attention-scarcity.
- padjo 1y agoGreat, and how do we know the test results they publish are accurate?
- canyp 1y agoThis is why governments exist and what you're proposing is absurd. Do you want to compile a list of every possible threat you are exposed to daily and amend your comment? Sounds like you need to educate yourself on the role of government before you parrot more "competitive market" nonsense.