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The author's concerns would mostly all be ameliorated by logging out of TikTok and never logging back in. They seem to think that "TikTok" and "Society" are syn

The author's concerns would mostly all be ameliorated by logging out of TikTok and never logging back in. They seem to think that "TikTok" and "Society" are synonyms. They are not.

Tokumei-no-hito 1y ago
you seem unaware that over 60% (150M) of the US uses tiktok and around 70% of that (100M) are 18-30. it's unclear on the < 18 numbers but likely a significant number. i don't think it's unreasonable, particularly when she qualifies gen-z, to conflate tiktok and society. it's really out of hand. the brain rot, beyond just the psych labeling she touches on, is crazy.
- pmg101 1y ago
  What do you mean by "brain rot"?
  - hyperadvanced 1y ago
    Generally it means “deterioration of creative or critical thought capabilities into facile but engaging substitutes for thought” - usually it means something like “taking the algorithm home with you; letting yourself become one with the endless torrent of memes that infinite scroll platforms hand pick and deliver into your brain”
- socalgal2 1y ago
  70% of 100M is 70M. There are not 70m 18-30yr olds in the USA.
  - Tokumei-no-hito 1y ago
    there's 28% gen z in the US. that's roughly 94M and 70M are on tiktok
    - lodovic 1y ago
      You are pulling numbers out of thin air. First you claim 100m 18-30 year olds (the number is closer to 55m) and now you inflate gen Z numbers too (my count is less than 70M, and there is just no way that 100% of them are tiktok users). Here are some real sources https://media.market.us/gen-z-statistics/ https://media.market.us/gen-z-statistics/ https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/united-states-population-by-age/ https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/united-states-population-...
      - Tokumei-no-hito 1y ago
        that's fair. i went off the AI generated answer. here's some links, i was off but the number is still significant. 50% users under 30 (gen z). only counts 18-30, estimate as you will for those under 18 (to be fair she only referenced gen z): https://explodingtopics.com/blog/tiktok-demographics https://explodingtopics.com/blog/tiktok-demographics total users in US is 170M: https://backlinko.com/tiktok-users https://backlinko.com/tiktok-users your call on if 85M users 18-30 is "[gen z] society".
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bombcar 1y ago
It exists outside of TikTok (and Tumblr before it). It may not be as noticeable or strong, but it’s there. Especially with children and teenagers - which is why labeling them early can be so bad (or good, if used sparingly).
paganel 1y ago
It has definitely slipped into real life, amongst us, persons who don't use TikTok. And I've recently heard therapy talk related to relationships/love coming from a close person who I know for certain that doesn't use TikTok, and she's also in her mid to late-30s (so no zoomer).
poulpy123 1y ago
Tiktok seems to have between 1 and 2 billion users. It's not just something for the terminally online
- stevenAthompson 1y ago
  I would argue that TikTok is what terminally online means now.

The author's concerns would mostly all be ameliorated by logging out of TikTok and never logging back in. They seem to think that "TikTok" and "Society" are synonyms. They are not.

Tokumei-no-hito 1y ago

you seem unaware that over 60% (150M) of the US uses tiktok and around 70% of that (100M) are 18-30. it's unclear on the < 18 numbers but likely a significant number. i don't think it's unreasonable, particularly when she qualifies gen-z, to conflate tiktok and society. it's really out of hand. the brain rot, beyond just the psych labeling she touches on, is crazy.

pmg101 1y ago
What do you mean by "brain rot"?
- hyperadvanced 1y ago
  Generally it means “deterioration of creative or critical thought capabilities into facile but engaging substitutes for thought” - usually it means something like “taking the algorithm home with you; letting yourself become one with the endless torrent of memes that infinite scroll platforms hand pick and deliver into your brain”
socalgal2 1y ago
70% of 100M is 70M. There are not 70m 18-30yr olds in the USA.
- Tokumei-no-hito 1y ago
  there's 28% gen z in the US. that's roughly 94M and 70M are on tiktok
  - lodovic 1y ago
    You are pulling numbers out of thin air. First you claim 100m 18-30 year olds (the number is closer to 55m) and now you inflate gen Z numbers too (my count is less than 70M, and there is just no way that 100% of them are tiktok users). Here are some real sources https://media.market.us/gen-z-statistics/ https://media.market.us/gen-z-statistics/ https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/united-states-population-by-age/ https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/united-states-population-...
    - Tokumei-no-hito 1y ago
      that's fair. i went off the AI generated answer. here's some links, i was off but the number is still significant. 50% users under 30 (gen z). only counts 18-30, estimate as you will for those under 18 (to be fair she only referenced gen z): https://explodingtopics.com/blog/tiktok-demographics https://explodingtopics.com/blog/tiktok-demographics total users in US is 170M: https://backlinko.com/tiktok-users https://backlinko.com/tiktok-users your call on if 85M users 18-30 is "[gen z] society".
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bombcar 1y ago

It exists outside of TikTok (and Tumblr before it). It may not be as noticeable or strong, but it’s there. Especially with children and teenagers - which is why labeling them early can be so bad (or good, if used sparingly).

paganel 1y ago

It has definitely slipped into real life, amongst us, persons who don't use TikTok. And I've recently heard therapy talk related to relationships/love coming from a close person who I know for certain that doesn't use TikTok, and she's also in her mid to late-30s (so no zoomer).

poulpy123 1y ago

Tiktok seems to have between 1 and 2 billion users. It's not just something for the terminally online

stevenAthompson 1y ago
I would argue that TikTok is what terminally online means now.