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every developer knows safari is the new ie6 but we all just shrug and build native apps anyway because what else are you gonna do. leave 50% of your users on th

every developer knows safari is the new ie6 but we all just shrug and build native apps anyway because what else are you gonna do. leave 50% of your users on the table. classic embrace extend extinguish but in reverse. embrace web standards then purposely not extend them so you can extinguish competition

adastra22 1y ago
Chrome is the new IE6 if anything. Tons of websites fail to work on safari.
- fc417fc802 1y ago
  IE6 was stagnant and not standards compliant. Safari at least complies with standards. Chrome is the polar opposite of IE6. Turns out it doesn't really matter what you do, if one party controls too much of any market it's bad news for end users one way or another.
  - adastra22 1y ago
    That’s not exactly accurate as standards for new web technologies didn’t exist back when IE6 was dominant. The WHATWG had to be founded and the standards made post facto before IE6 was non-compliant.
    - zarzavat 1y ago
      Different eras. The "IE6" here is the IE6 in 2009 that stubbornly refused to die.
- bitpush 1y ago
  Maybe because Safari isnt funded by Apple, and would rather pump that money into extracting rent from App Store? The few engineers that Safari has are top-top notch, but they wouldnt let them grow the teams and would much rather drag their feet.
- thunderfork 1y ago
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Y-bar 1y ago
> every developer knows safari is the new ie6 Every colleague in my company only targets and tests against Chrome because they honestly considers _everything_ and anything Chrome does as the standard. As a FF user it hurts me because even if Apple and Mozilla has implemented some feature according to spec these people ignore that in favour of the Chrome way of doing things. Calling Safari the new ie6 is ignorant of reality.
gherkinnn 1y ago
Is that so? I develop primarily in Safari and don't have too many complaints.
- p2detar 1y ago
  I also use Safari as my main browser on the Mac. However, for YouTube and dev I go with Chrome atm.

adastra22 1y ago

Chrome is the new IE6 if anything. Tons of websites fail to work on safari.

fc417fc802 1y ago
IE6 was stagnant and not standards compliant. Safari at least complies with standards. Chrome is the polar opposite of IE6. Turns out it doesn't really matter what you do, if one party controls too much of any market it's bad news for end users one way or another.
- adastra22 1y ago
  That’s not exactly accurate as standards for new web technologies didn’t exist back when IE6 was dominant. The WHATWG had to be founded and the standards made post facto before IE6 was non-compliant.
  - zarzavat 1y ago
    Different eras. The "IE6" here is the IE6 in 2009 that stubbornly refused to die.
bitpush 1y ago
Maybe because Safari isnt funded by Apple, and would rather pump that money into extracting rent from App Store? The few engineers that Safari has are top-top notch, but they wouldnt let them grow the teams and would much rather drag their feet.
thunderfork 1y ago
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Y-bar 1y ago

> every developer knows safari is the new ie6 Every colleague in my company only targets and tests against Chrome because they honestly considers _everything_ and anything Chrome does as the standard. As a FF user it hurts me because even if Apple and Mozilla has implemented some feature according to spec these people ignore that in favour of the Chrome way of doing things. Calling Safari the new ie6 is ignorant of reality.

gherkinnn 1y ago

Is that so? I develop primarily in Safari and don't have too many complaints.

p2detar 1y ago
I also use Safari as my main browser on the Mac. However, for YouTube and dev I go with Chrome atm.