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I wish they would stop with snap, snaps have been nothing but a pain. Ubuntu keep pushing half-baked ideas into the wild - who asked for a system that would ran

by bArray 1y ago

I wish they would stop with snap, snaps have been nothing but a pain. Ubuntu keep pushing half-baked ideas into the wild - who asked for a system that would randomly kill apps without warning? It's like the Rust SSH thing, they are going to make it the default whether you like it or not, even though they know it is not 1:1 and probably never will be. I'm currently having an issue with Firefox where it will not stop crashing all of the time, even whilst using Hackernews. Not a RAM or CPU issue, just buggy software pushed through a "move fast and break things" attitude.

loloquwowndueo 1y ago
Google “remove snaps Ubuntu 24.04” (or whichever version you’re on). I did so, nuked all snaps and replaced Firefox with an upstream Deb repository. Everything’s working fine so far.
- somanyphotons 1y ago
  May as well run Debian at that point
  - loloquwowndueo 1y ago
    I’ve found that Ubuntu comes with more things set up out of the box than Debian, so it gets me up and running faster. Or could look into Mint. Sure, to each their own - as long as it has no snaps!
    - stebian_dable 1y ago
      Try Mx Linux :)
  - blacksmith_tb 1y ago
    On a server, 100% but on a desktop/laptop, Ubuntu does bring some conveniences (though Pop_OS! improves that balance, the good stuff minus the over-dependence on snaps).
  - pepa65 1y ago
    Or Linux Mint..! :-D
- bokchoi 1y ago
  Or run PopOS which is Ubuntu without the snaps.
simion314 1y ago
I like using snap on my LTS servers, I can test new CLI tools there and see if the new version has soem fixes that I need or not, if the snap works better I can use it without messing around with installing some PPA to update the tool and it's dependencies.
- Jnr 1y ago
  What I dislike about snaps is the performance. Somehow they have managed to make them practically unusable on computers older than a few years.
msgodel 1y ago
It's like they saw RedHat and though "ah the reason people complain about that is because they're just not going fast enough."
rbanffy 1y ago
> snaps have been nothing but a pain. I remember being vocal about it being a bad solution to a problem nobody had while I was working for Canonical. That's probably one of the reasons it seems unlikely they'll ever hire me again.

by bArray 1y ago

loloquwowndueo 1y ago

Google “remove snaps Ubuntu 24.04” (or whichever version you’re on). I did so, nuked all snaps and replaced Firefox with an upstream Deb repository. Everything’s working fine so far.

somanyphotons 1y ago
May as well run Debian at that point
- loloquwowndueo 1y ago
  I’ve found that Ubuntu comes with more things set up out of the box than Debian, so it gets me up and running faster. Or could look into Mint. Sure, to each their own - as long as it has no snaps!
  - stebian_dable 1y ago
    Try Mx Linux :)
- blacksmith_tb 1y ago
  On a server, 100% but on a desktop/laptop, Ubuntu does bring some conveniences (though Pop_OS! improves that balance, the good stuff minus the over-dependence on snaps).
- pepa65 1y ago
  Or Linux Mint..! :-D
bokchoi 1y ago
Or run PopOS which is Ubuntu without the snaps.

simion314 1y ago

I like using snap on my LTS servers, I can test new CLI tools there and see if the new version has soem fixes that I need or not, if the snap works better I can use it without messing around with installing some PPA to update the tool and it's dependencies.

Jnr 1y ago
What I dislike about snaps is the performance. Somehow they have managed to make them practically unusable on computers older than a few years.

msgodel 1y ago

It's like they saw RedHat and though "ah the reason people complain about that is because they're just not going fast enough."

rbanffy 1y ago

> snaps have been nothing but a pain. I remember being vocal about it being a bad solution to a problem nobody had while I was working for Canonical. That's probably one of the reasons it seems unlikely they'll ever hire me again.