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This is so true. And in my experience Oracle's main business seems to be getting companies to sign complicated contracts, waiting a year or two, and then suing

This is so true. And in my experience Oracle's main business seems to be getting companies to sign complicated contracts, waiting a year or two, and then suing them for some infraction so that they can extort another contract from them. I haven't met an Oracle product yet that can't be done better by either free software or a less litigious company.

ocdtrekkie 1y ago
Broadcom has entered the chat. It's wild that cease and desists and audit notices are becoming common ways to punish someone for just... not renewing your contract.
- pavlov 1y ago
  Former Twitter has been suing its customers if they don’t spend enough money on ads on the platform. Tech companies and oligarchs are incredibly entitled.
zaphirplane 1y ago
This is hyperbole to the extreme. I have nothing what so ever to do with oracle
xixixao 1y ago
We moved from mssql on Azure to Oracle. What should do instead, if Azure is a hard constraint?
- Hendrikto 1y ago
  Postgres, for example, or MySQL.
  - xixixao 1y ago
    Our use cases are primarily analytical. We already use Postgres for other workloads.
    - Hendrikto 1y ago
      Maybe DuckDB then?
pjmlp 1y ago
The only good SQL tooling I am aware of, really good with compilers, debuggers, IDEs, is MS SQL Server. Then stuff like distributed transactions, raw disk access for databases, among other niceties that people reaching to Postgres or MySQL probably never heard of, but many Fortune 500 enjoy, even if one for checking bullet points on RFPs. Postgres comes second, after getting all puzzle pieces together, some of them also commercial.
Beretta_Vexee 1y ago
I personally have come to the conclusion that behind every major open-source or free software success story, there is a completely dysfunctional market. Without this, it would be impossible to find enough people willing to say, “Fuck that shit, we're going to recode this ourselves.” The fact that there are so many people motivated to code alternatives to Oracle products says a lot about Oracle's business practices.

ocdtrekkie 1y ago

Broadcom has entered the chat. It's wild that cease and desists and audit notices are becoming common ways to punish someone for just... not renewing your contract.

pavlov 1y ago
Former Twitter has been suing its customers if they don’t spend enough money on ads on the platform. Tech companies and oligarchs are incredibly entitled.

zaphirplane 1y ago

This is hyperbole to the extreme. I have nothing what so ever to do with oracle

xixixao 1y ago

We moved from mssql on Azure to Oracle. What should do instead, if Azure is a hard constraint?

Hendrikto 1y ago
Postgres, for example, or MySQL.
- xixixao 1y ago
  Our use cases are primarily analytical. We already use Postgres for other workloads.
  - Hendrikto 1y ago
    Maybe DuckDB then?

pjmlp 1y ago

The only good SQL tooling I am aware of, really good with compilers, debuggers, IDEs, is MS SQL Server. Then stuff like distributed transactions, raw disk access for databases, among other niceties that people reaching to Postgres or MySQL probably never heard of, but many Fortune 500 enjoy, even if one for checking bullet points on RFPs. Postgres comes second, after getting all puzzle pieces together, some of them also commercial.

Beretta_Vexee 1y ago

I personally have come to the conclusion that behind every major open-source or free software success story, there is a completely dysfunctional market. Without this, it would be impossible to find enough people willing to say, “Fuck that shit, we're going to recode this ourselves.” The fact that there are so many people motivated to code alternatives to Oracle products says a lot about Oracle's business practices.