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ICE arrested a 6-year-old boy with leukemia at immigration court

28 points by cempaka 1y ago

actionfromafar 1y ago
According to the administration, just another terrorist rounded up.
mslansn 1y ago
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- jxjnskkzxxhx 1y ago
  > He even had leukaemia? Why didn’t they give him and his extended family green cards right there and then? Don't do this... No one here suggested that having leukaemia should be enough to qualify for a green card.
  - mslansn 1y ago
    Why not? The article suggests that they should be allowed to stay because it’s an ill child (which also won’t be able to afford treatment anyway)
    - Dig1t 1y ago
      This is a legit good question, someone who walks across the border is extremely unlikely to be able to afford cancer treatment. There’s a near infinite supply of needy people in the world. What is the legitimate, rational argument for allowing them all to come here and receive aid and treatment? Even if you decide you’re not going to “allow” it, if the incentives still exist, like California’s free healthcare for illegal immigrants, they will still come because the benefits are worth the risk.
    - intermerda 1y ago
      What an insanely cruel thought lacking any semblance of basic decency and humanity. Is there really no cure for MAGA mind virus?
      - cempaka 1y ago
        The problem is that they've been convinced the reason everything in our lives is increasingly shitty is down to hordes of 6-year-olds with leukemia who've crossed the border for free medical care. It couldn't be more obvious that this is a scapegoating operation being pushed by the ultra-wealthy who are gaining from widening precarity and exploitation. But a "solution" that involves just inflicting a bunch of harm to the powerless is inherently more appealing than wresting control from the powerful, which will involve real work & sacrifice.
    - rekttrader 1y ago
      I bet you’re real fun at parties.
      - jxjnskkzxxhx 1y ago
        I bet he either doesn't get invited to parties, or doesn't voice these views at parties.
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > The article suggests that they should be allowed to stay because it’s an ill child Where? I see it calling out presumed ICE agents “in civilian clothing,” making arrests in “the hallway” of a courthouse (in violation of “a federal court ruling that the new ICE courthouse arrest policy is unlawful and unconstitutional”), allegedly violating “the Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution — which guarantee due process and prevent unlawful seizures” while laying bare that this administration has given up on arresting the “violent criminals” we were promised in campaign world.
    - southernplaces7 1y ago
      Aside from the article not suggesting that, even if it did, so what? I'd like to assume that the federal bureaucracy of one of the absolute wealthiest and most powerful nations in human history can manage to avoid economic disaster if it defers some half-reasoned regulatory deportation policy for little kids who are possibly too sick to travel. Basic humane considerations and decency really do have a place in how you enforce laws, and their existence makes a difference that can affect any of us at any time.
      - jxjnskkzxxhx 1y ago
        Right, that was my point, but in the end I didn't feel like it was worth the effort making it; this person is either a troll or a lunatic.
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cursuve 1y ago
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" The New Colossus, Emma Lazarus, 1883
giardini 1y ago
A boy with leukemia very likely won't live to adulthood and will be a burden on society. We want and need the healthiest, the brightest, the strongest for both their generation's sake and that of succeeding ones.
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  I'm going guess you're being sarcastic, but just in case anyone else here takes this nugget seriously, leukemia is one of the cancers out there that has seen the most spectacular improvements in treatment across the last few decades. No, most kids that get it don't die young. It's all the opposite.
  - giardini 1y ago
    Not being sarcastic. And kids with leukemia die earlier than kids w/o: leukemia is not a "super power". Quit being silly.
- soganess 1y ago
  FINALLY, someone I can agree with. With the birthright citizenship now in play, I say we should expatriate everyone in tech as well! Now that code can be written by LLMs, tech workers will just be drain on the economy. If one don't have the heart to see the basic decency of not imprisoning a terminally ill child... I'm not sure there is anything they couldn't be convinced to do.
wolfi1 1y ago
if this boy misses his treatments wouldn't that also mean that the 8th amendment is being violated?
- burnt-resistor 1y ago
  The amendments mean nothing when there is abject, depraved lawlessness. The regime decides who have "rights" and who doesn't like pardoning bank fraudsters and violent insurrectionists while abusing poor people.
- amy214 1y ago
  >The mother brought her two children to the immigration court on May 29 expecting to continue to make a case for asylum after fleeing Honduras because of threats of violence. If someone threatens me with violence, can I go live in any country I want and have my expensive disease treated?
  - cempaka 1y ago
    I think you should reasonably to be able to expect to seek peace and support in the country that created the unstable situation for you in the first place, yes. At any rate the effect of these asylum seekers on the hospital system in the U.S. pales in comparison to the private equity vampires stripping it for parts while getting abject dummies like you to blame "the migrants."

28 points by cempaka 1y ago

actionfromafar 1y ago

According to the administration, just another terrorist rounded up.

mslansn 1y ago

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jxjnskkzxxhx 1y ago
> He even had leukaemia? Why didn’t they give him and his extended family green cards right there and then? Don't do this... No one here suggested that having leukaemia should be enough to qualify for a green card.
- mslansn 1y ago
  Why not? The article suggests that they should be allowed to stay because it’s an ill child (which also won’t be able to afford treatment anyway)
  - Dig1t 1y ago
    This is a legit good question, someone who walks across the border is extremely unlikely to be able to afford cancer treatment. There’s a near infinite supply of needy people in the world. What is the legitimate, rational argument for allowing them all to come here and receive aid and treatment? Even if you decide you’re not going to “allow” it, if the incentives still exist, like California’s free healthcare for illegal immigrants, they will still come because the benefits are worth the risk.
  - intermerda 1y ago
    What an insanely cruel thought lacking any semblance of basic decency and humanity. Is there really no cure for MAGA mind virus?
    - cempaka 1y ago
      The problem is that they've been convinced the reason everything in our lives is increasingly shitty is down to hordes of 6-year-olds with leukemia who've crossed the border for free medical care. It couldn't be more obvious that this is a scapegoating operation being pushed by the ultra-wealthy who are gaining from widening precarity and exploitation. But a "solution" that involves just inflicting a bunch of harm to the powerless is inherently more appealing than wresting control from the powerful, which will involve real work & sacrifice.
  - rekttrader 1y ago
    I bet you’re real fun at parties.
    - jxjnskkzxxhx 1y ago
      I bet he either doesn't get invited to parties, or doesn't voice these views at parties.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > The article suggests that they should be allowed to stay because it’s an ill child Where? I see it calling out presumed ICE agents “in civilian clothing,” making arrests in “the hallway” of a courthouse (in violation of “a federal court ruling that the new ICE courthouse arrest policy is unlawful and unconstitutional”), allegedly violating “the Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution — which guarantee due process and prevent unlawful seizures” while laying bare that this administration has given up on arresting the “violent criminals” we were promised in campaign world.
  - southernplaces7 1y ago
    Aside from the article not suggesting that, even if it did, so what? I'd like to assume that the federal bureaucracy of one of the absolute wealthiest and most powerful nations in human history can manage to avoid economic disaster if it defers some half-reasoned regulatory deportation policy for little kids who are possibly too sick to travel. Basic humane considerations and decency really do have a place in how you enforce laws, and their existence makes a difference that can affect any of us at any time.
    - jxjnskkzxxhx 1y ago
      Right, that was my point, but in the end I didn't feel like it was worth the effort making it; this person is either a troll or a lunatic.
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cursuve 1y ago

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" The New Colossus, Emma Lazarus, 1883

giardini 1y ago

A boy with leukemia very likely won't live to adulthood and will be a burden on society. We want and need the healthiest, the brightest, the strongest for both their generation's sake and that of succeeding ones.

southernplaces7 1y ago
I'm going guess you're being sarcastic, but just in case anyone else here takes this nugget seriously, leukemia is one of the cancers out there that has seen the most spectacular improvements in treatment across the last few decades. No, most kids that get it don't die young. It's all the opposite.
- giardini 1y ago
  Not being sarcastic. And kids with leukemia die earlier than kids w/o: leukemia is not a "super power". Quit being silly.
soganess 1y ago
FINALLY, someone I can agree with. With the birthright citizenship now in play, I say we should expatriate everyone in tech as well! Now that code can be written by LLMs, tech workers will just be drain on the economy. If one don't have the heart to see the basic decency of not imprisoning a terminally ill child... I'm not sure there is anything they couldn't be convinced to do.

wolfi1 1y ago

if this boy misses his treatments wouldn't that also mean that the 8th amendment is being violated?

burnt-resistor 1y ago
The amendments mean nothing when there is abject, depraved lawlessness. The regime decides who have "rights" and who doesn't like pardoning bank fraudsters and violent insurrectionists while abusing poor people.
amy214 1y ago
>The mother brought her two children to the immigration court on May 29 expecting to continue to make a case for asylum after fleeing Honduras because of threats of violence. If someone threatens me with violence, can I go live in any country I want and have my expensive disease treated?
- cempaka 1y ago
  I think you should reasonably to be able to expect to seek peace and support in the country that created the unstable situation for you in the first place, yes. At any rate the effect of these asylum seekers on the hospital system in the U.S. pales in comparison to the private equity vampires stripping it for parts while getting abject dummies like you to blame "the migrants."