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No, it's called capitalism — capital has the last word. As we have seen clearly, even Trump is overwhelmingly limited by the constraints of capital.

blooalien 1y ago
Sadly, Fascism and Capitalism largely walk hand-in-hand these days... Their bastard love-child will almost certainly be the death of "civilized" society if allowed to continue on the path it's currently on... It's well past time society starts brainstorming a better option.
- candiddevmike 1y ago
  You could almost say capitalism's final form is some flavor of oligarchy fascism
  - sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
    This is an incredibly correct post.
  - browningstreet 1y ago
    Have a read: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/whats-next-for-capitalism-reinvention-or-authoritarian-rule.html https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/whats-next-for-capit...
- autobodie 1y ago
  I don't care. Capitalism is the problem and pretending its something more obscure is easier but useless.
zeroCalories 1y ago
Capitalism is when people vote away their own rights? Leftist analysis can't explain why Bernie out-spent Biden and got crushed. There are strong capital interests on both sides of this issue.
- h2zizzle 1y ago
  >Leftist analysis can't explain why Bernie out-spent Biden and got crushed. Haven't we been saying it was stolen through suspect political maneuvering and the compromised nature of mass and social media as it exists today? As a black person, it was not lost on me the difficulty CNN et al. had in finding black voters to interview, until the nation NEEDED to know that black South Carolinian voters definitely hated Sanders and backed Biden.
  - zeroCalories 1y ago
    > Haven't we been saying it was stolen through suspect political maneuvering and the compromised nature of mass and social media as it exists today? Political maneuvering isn't capitalism. But putting that aside, if your candidate could only win by having the moderate vote split five ways, you're the ones doing political maneuvering. > As a black person, it was not lost on me the difficulty CNN et al. had in finding black voters to interview, until the nation NEEDED to know that black South Carolinian voters definitely hated Sanders and backed Biden. Polls always showed that Biden was the Obama guy.
    - h2zizzle 1y ago
      >if your candidate could only win by having the moderate vote split five ways, you're the ones doing political maneuvering. That's highly presumptive. Supporters of the other candidates made their initial choices for reasons. If they could have chosen someone other than Biden, they would have. The DNC purposely induced a panicked run to their chosen candidate (when they weren't calling heads instead of tails). That's as much a vote as the decision which door to exit out of after someone yells, "Fire," is a choice. To belabor the analogy: there was no fire. They pushed everyone to the leave the way that led to the concession stand instead of to the parking lot. On the other hand, if your candidate can only win by forcing his ideological rivals out of the race with backdoor quid-pro-quo deals, not only is he now corrupt, he is still definitely only winning through political maneuvering. >Polls always showed that Biden was the Obama guy. Clarence Thomas and Strom Thurmond.
lemoncookiechip 1y ago
Fascism had it's roots in Capitalism. The elites not only welcomed it, but they backed it, because it helped shut down workers right movements and keep things stable at a time when the workers right movement was hurting their bottom line by asking their bosses for living wages and humane working conditions, which they saw as Socialism and Communism.
- autobodie 1y ago
  I know. That's my point, and it's a point that calling it "Fascism" misses.

blooalien 1y ago

Sadly, Fascism and Capitalism largely walk hand-in-hand these days... Their bastard love-child will almost certainly be the death of "civilized" society if allowed to continue on the path it's currently on... It's well past time society starts brainstorming a better option.

candiddevmike 1y ago
You could almost say capitalism's final form is some flavor of oligarchy fascism
- sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
  This is an incredibly correct post.
- browningstreet 1y ago
  Have a read: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/whats-next-for-capitalism-reinvention-or-authoritarian-rule.html https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/whats-next-for-capit...
autobodie 1y ago
I don't care. Capitalism is the problem and pretending its something more obscure is easier but useless.

zeroCalories 1y ago

Capitalism is when people vote away their own rights? Leftist analysis can't explain why Bernie out-spent Biden and got crushed. There are strong capital interests on both sides of this issue.

h2zizzle 1y ago
>Leftist analysis can't explain why Bernie out-spent Biden and got crushed. Haven't we been saying it was stolen through suspect political maneuvering and the compromised nature of mass and social media as it exists today? As a black person, it was not lost on me the difficulty CNN et al. had in finding black voters to interview, until the nation NEEDED to know that black South Carolinian voters definitely hated Sanders and backed Biden.
- zeroCalories 1y ago
  > Haven't we been saying it was stolen through suspect political maneuvering and the compromised nature of mass and social media as it exists today? Political maneuvering isn't capitalism. But putting that aside, if your candidate could only win by having the moderate vote split five ways, you're the ones doing political maneuvering. > As a black person, it was not lost on me the difficulty CNN et al. had in finding black voters to interview, until the nation NEEDED to know that black South Carolinian voters definitely hated Sanders and backed Biden. Polls always showed that Biden was the Obama guy.
  - h2zizzle 1y ago
    >if your candidate could only win by having the moderate vote split five ways, you're the ones doing political maneuvering. That's highly presumptive. Supporters of the other candidates made their initial choices for reasons. If they could have chosen someone other than Biden, they would have. The DNC purposely induced a panicked run to their chosen candidate (when they weren't calling heads instead of tails). That's as much a vote as the decision which door to exit out of after someone yells, "Fire," is a choice. To belabor the analogy: there was no fire. They pushed everyone to the leave the way that led to the concession stand instead of to the parking lot. On the other hand, if your candidate can only win by forcing his ideological rivals out of the race with backdoor quid-pro-quo deals, not only is he now corrupt, he is still definitely only winning through political maneuvering. >Polls always showed that Biden was the Obama guy. Clarence Thomas and Strom Thurmond.

lemoncookiechip 1y ago

Fascism had it's roots in Capitalism. The elites not only welcomed it, but they backed it, because it helped shut down workers right movements and keep things stable at a time when the workers right movement was hurting their bottom line by asking their bosses for living wages and humane working conditions, which they saw as Socialism and Communism.

autobodie 1y ago
I know. That's my point, and it's a point that calling it "Fascism" misses.