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Why do you think the creators you like exclusively host content on YouTube?

by mmmmmbop 1y ago

xnorswap 1y ago
That's not difficult to answer, it's because it's free / they get paid.
- bitpush 1y ago
  .. and that's YT's problem? This is like being angry with Apple, because an app developer created only an iOS app and didnt create an Android. What did Apple do wrong if a developer chose to only create an iOS app?
  - xnorswap 1y ago
    YouTube is the system, you've not heard of "don't hate the player, hate the game"? If I "blamed" the creators, you'd be telling me it's not their fault, they're just incentivised by the system, they're just playing the game. But when I "blame" the system, you're telling me the system is not at fault, that it's individual choice to choose a near-monopoly on video discoverability that is propelled by and heavily benefiting from the same company's actual monopoly of search. Is it "YT's problem?"? No, it's to YT's massive benefit, it's my problem when I have to suffer through adverts.
    - bitpush 1y ago
      > YouTube is the system But isnt YouTube a mere player in the game as well?
      - xnorswap 1y ago
        I think viewing YouTube in that manner would be a nihilist point of view. I can't think of an adjective less suitable for Alphabet/Google/YouTube than "mere".
      - ndriscoll 1y ago
        Alphabet is the fifth largest company in the world, has earnings higher than most countries' GDP, and is established to have engaged in illegal behavior as a monopolist. It's fair to say they're closer to "the system" than "a player". Not that this was part of the suit, but the whole practice of giving things away for free and subsidizing them with stalking and ads obviously distorts or completely destroys markets, so yes they can be blamed for doing that. The behavior of these companies is so bad that people in a recent thread were claiming things like chat services (where a single computer can provide service for millions of users) cannot be sustainably run by charging money.

Why do you think the creators you like exclusively host content on YouTube?

xnorswap 1y ago

That's not difficult to answer, it's because it's free / they get paid.

bitpush 1y ago
.. and that's YT's problem? This is like being angry with Apple, because an app developer created only an iOS app and didnt create an Android. What did Apple do wrong if a developer chose to only create an iOS app?
- xnorswap 1y ago
  YouTube is the system, you've not heard of "don't hate the player, hate the game"? If I "blamed" the creators, you'd be telling me it's not their fault, they're just incentivised by the system, they're just playing the game. But when I "blame" the system, you're telling me the system is not at fault, that it's individual choice to choose a near-monopoly on video discoverability that is propelled by and heavily benefiting from the same company's actual monopoly of search. Is it "YT's problem?"? No, it's to YT's massive benefit, it's my problem when I have to suffer through adverts.
  - bitpush 1y ago
    > YouTube is the system But isnt YouTube a mere player in the game as well?
    - xnorswap 1y ago
      I think viewing YouTube in that manner would be a nihilist point of view. I can't think of an adjective less suitable for Alphabet/Google/YouTube than "mere".
    - ndriscoll 1y ago
      Alphabet is the fifth largest company in the world, has earnings higher than most countries' GDP, and is established to have engaged in illegal behavior as a monopolist. It's fair to say they're closer to "the system" than "a player". Not that this was part of the suit, but the whole practice of giving things away for free and subsidizing them with stalking and ads obviously distorts or completely destroys markets, so yes they can be blamed for doing that. The behavior of these companies is so bad that people in a recent thread were claiming things like chat services (where a single computer can provide service for millions of users) cannot be sustainably run by charging money.