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100 children? Looks like Elon is less fertile...

by miga 1y ago

Onawa 1y ago
Only 6 of the children were conceived naturally. The rest were from sperm donations. Interesting that he claims that there isn't a difference for him though in how he views his offspring.
- walterbell 1y ago
  Reportedly he will "open-source" his DNA data to establish paternity for legal claim by each child.
  - myth_drannon 1y ago
    Which is silly, anyone can buy DNA test kit for 50$ and then download the result file and upload to the miriad DNA sites out there like gedmatch, myheritage so you can be easily found. That's how the families of my relative who donated sperm (anonymously) found me and now trying to figure out who the donor is and are contacting me.
    - wood_spirit 1y ago
      I guess he means he will publish his dna. Then, all who can match that they are his children can claim.
    - Balgair 1y ago
      Ahhh, no, not in France. From what I can tell (which isn't much) Durov is living in France and seems to like it there. I'm not going to assume the people that are a product of his sperm donations are all living in France, but I will assume some are. In France paternity tests are legal, but they are highly regulated and require a court order to preform at a very small number of labs that can do it. This goes back to 1994. Even going outside that system and gaining a paternity test in another country is illegal and risks a year in prison and a 15,000 Euro fine. Not that it stops questioning husbands, but hey.
      - walterbell 1y ago
        Lived in UAE. Visited, arrested and held in France for several months. Returned to UAE. https://gizmodo.com/telegrams-founder-plans-to-open-source-his-dna-2000481509 https://gizmodo.com/telegrams-founder-plans-to-open-source-h... > 100 families in 12 different countries... still on tap at a Moscow IVF clinic
        Balgair 1y ago
        Thanks!
- sorcerer-mar 1y ago
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  - javier123454321 1y ago
    Donating sperm is not the same as going for cigarettes and never coming back to your family.
    - yorpinn 1y ago
      Additionally, the claim that these children lacked a father/adequate parenting is not in evidence. They were probably more likely than average to be born into stable two-parent households since their parents were planning to have children & evidently have access to healthcare.
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    - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
      Ah this is fair, I thought Pavel was doing similar Muskian thing of singling out women he found hot, making them sign NDAs, and keeping them in hotel rooms for the duration of their pregnancy and then ignoring those children. I didn't realize this was more of a traditional sperm donation effort. Kudos to him then!
    - jollyllama 1y ago
      Sure but GP has a point. He is going around saying he "fathered" them, that they are "his children". Sure that's true in the strict sense of the word, and it is good that he is providing for them in some respect, but it is sad to reduce fatherhood to this transactional, materialistic sense. Are those children going to think of Durov as their "real dad"?
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100 children? Looks like Elon is less fertile...

by miga 1y ago

100 children? Looks like Elon is less fertile...

Only 6 of the children were conceived naturally. The rest were from sperm donations. Interesting that he claims that there isn't a difference for him though in how he views his offspring.

walterbell 1y ago
Reportedly he will "open-source" his DNA data to establish paternity for legal claim by each child.
- myth_drannon 1y ago
  Which is silly, anyone can buy DNA test kit for 50$ and then download the result file and upload to the miriad DNA sites out there like gedmatch, myheritage so you can be easily found. That's how the families of my relative who donated sperm (anonymously) found me and now trying to figure out who the donor is and are contacting me.
  - wood_spirit 1y ago
    I guess he means he will publish his dna. Then, all who can match that they are his children can claim.
  - Balgair 1y ago
    Ahhh, no, not in France. From what I can tell (which isn't much) Durov is living in France and seems to like it there. I'm not going to assume the people that are a product of his sperm donations are all living in France, but I will assume some are. In France paternity tests are legal, but they are highly regulated and require a court order to preform at a very small number of labs that can do it. This goes back to 1994. Even going outside that system and gaining a paternity test in another country is illegal and risks a year in prison and a 15,000 Euro fine. Not that it stops questioning husbands, but hey.
    - walterbell 1y ago
      Lived in UAE. Visited, arrested and held in France for several months. Returned to UAE. https://gizmodo.com/telegrams-founder-plans-to-open-source-his-dna-2000481509 https://gizmodo.com/telegrams-founder-plans-to-open-source-h... > 100 families in 12 different countries... still on tap at a Moscow IVF clinic
      - Balgair 1y ago
        Thanks!
sorcerer-mar 1y ago
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- javier123454321 1y ago
  Donating sperm is not the same as going for cigarettes and never coming back to your family.
  - yorpinn 1y ago
    Additionally, the claim that these children lacked a father/adequate parenting is not in evidence. They were probably more likely than average to be born into stable two-parent households since their parents were planning to have children & evidently have access to healthcare.
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  - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
    Ah this is fair, I thought Pavel was doing similar Muskian thing of singling out women he found hot, making them sign NDAs, and keeping them in hotel rooms for the duration of their pregnancy and then ignoring those children. I didn't realize this was more of a traditional sperm donation effort. Kudos to him then!
  - jollyllama 1y ago
    Sure but GP has a point. He is going around saying he "fathered" them, that they are "his children". Sure that's true in the strict sense of the word, and it is good that he is providing for them in some respect, but it is sad to reduce fatherhood to this transactional, materialistic sense. Are those children going to think of Durov as their "real dad"?

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