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I always think about blackberry’s internal design teams telling the ceo that the iPhone was fake, then getting one and seeing that it was a small logic board w

I always think about blackberry’s internal design teams telling the ceo that the iPhone was fake, then getting one and seeing that it was a small logic board with a giant battery. RIM got so completely smoked with their ten year development cycles. It’s amazing if that they still have a business today to be honest.

stefanfisk 1y ago
Where can I read more about the design team believing that the iPhone was fake?
- gwid0n 1y ago
  https://www.amazon.com/Losing-Signal-Extraordinary-Spectacular-BlackBerry/dp/1250096065 https://www.amazon.com/Losing-Signal-Extraordinary-Spectacul... There's also an entertaining movie based on this book, a rare business film that is more about failure than success.
  - Aaronstotle 1y ago
    And one of the main characters is played by Glen Howard (Dennis for the Always Sunny Fans). He does a good job of playing psychopaths.
- nicolaslegland 1y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2047623 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2047623
  - b112 1y ago
    One thing this comment is missing, is data rates. At the time, data was mondo expensive. Everyone was stuck low-bandwidth. Then when the iphone launched, Jobs + Apple did an exclusive with Cingular/AT&T. The talk at the time, was it was a bidding war -- they all wanted the iphone on their network first. That exclusive opened the door to a phone manufacturer, for the first time, negotiating bandwidth, new data plans and more. RIM didn't have a lot of software that was high bandwidth, because the carriers wouldn't even allow it before Apple broke that hold. So suddenly here's this new phone, with an exclusive, and with actual usable web browsing with a usable data plan price.... and RIM still begging for that. (Obviously RIM still could have caught up if they didn't drop the ball, but this was a big shift in the market)
someuser2345 1y ago
To be fair, a lot of the iPhone's first demo was faked.
testing22321 1y ago
Even the CEO of United Launch Aliance said public ally the SpaceX raptor 3 was fake. They are so far ahead even their biggest competitor can’t comprehend what they’re doing.

stefanfisk 1y ago

Where can I read more about the design team believing that the iPhone was fake?

gwid0n 1y ago
https://www.amazon.com/Losing-Signal-Extraordinary-Spectacular-BlackBerry/dp/1250096065 https://www.amazon.com/Losing-Signal-Extraordinary-Spectacul... There's also an entertaining movie based on this book, a rare business film that is more about failure than success.
- Aaronstotle 1y ago
  And one of the main characters is played by Glen Howard (Dennis for the Always Sunny Fans). He does a good job of playing psychopaths.
nicolaslegland 1y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2047623 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2047623
- b112 1y ago
  One thing this comment is missing, is data rates. At the time, data was mondo expensive. Everyone was stuck low-bandwidth. Then when the iphone launched, Jobs + Apple did an exclusive with Cingular/AT&T. The talk at the time, was it was a bidding war -- they all wanted the iphone on their network first. That exclusive opened the door to a phone manufacturer, for the first time, negotiating bandwidth, new data plans and more. RIM didn't have a lot of software that was high bandwidth, because the carriers wouldn't even allow it before Apple broke that hold. So suddenly here's this new phone, with an exclusive, and with actual usable web browsing with a usable data plan price.... and RIM still begging for that. (Obviously RIM still could have caught up if they didn't drop the ball, but this was a big shift in the market)

someuser2345 1y ago

To be fair, a lot of the iPhone's first demo was faked.

testing22321 1y ago

Even the CEO of United Launch Aliance said public ally the SpaceX raptor 3 was fake. They are so far ahead even their biggest competitor can’t comprehend what they’re doing.