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First define consciousness such that the definition differentiates you from a computer with a webcam.
by bufferoverflow 1y ago
First define consciousness such that the definition differentiates you from a computer with a webcam.
- hshshshshsh 1y agoYou cannot define consciousness. You can only experience it. In fact consciousness is the only thing you will ever experience.
- saulpw 1y agoPerhaps you should use 'sentience' or something more precise to mean 'qualia-experiencing'. The word 'consciousness' is quite overloaded and thus trips people up who haven't thought about this as extensively as you have. In particular many people take it to mean "self-awareness" (whether correctly or not), but it seems obvious to me that there are many sentient beings which lack self-awareness but still have an internal experience.
- hshshshshsh 1y agoYes. Self awareness is just another content inside consciousness.
- legohead 1y agoYou can measure various aspects of a computer. You can't measure consciousness.
- bufferoverflow 1y agoThat's not a definition. Depending on the definition, it may be possible to measure it.
- hshshshshsh 1y agoYou cannot measure consciousness. You are consciousness thinking of itself as the human. Measurement is an event appearing in consciousness done by humans. It's like persons inside GTA talking about measuring the Samsung monitor. It makes no sense cause they can never see the monitor or locate it. They appear in the monitor.
- consz 1y agoYou absolutely can measure "various aspects of consciousness" -- for example, "how much of the last 24h has this consciousness been awake" seems simple. So your definition seems kind of weak, could you be more precise? Conversely, in your definition, is consciousness the only "thing" that you would describe as not being able to measure various aspects about it? Are there any other objects or concepts which you also cannot measure various aspects about? If yes, what differentiates those things from consciousness?