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What do you mean with expat? You'd like to get an employer in the US that sends you to work in the EU on their behalf?

by elros 1y ago

camhayes 1y ago
Expat to mean residence in a non-US country. So it would mean an offer from an EU-based company to either sponsor a residence visa or one that qualifies for Blue Card. Either way, an offer is needed in the EU.
- elros 1y ago
  Oh, I see, you'd like to immigrate to Europe. In that case, I'd suggest looking at the multiple options for immigrant visas, the rules for which vary country by country. I believe, as others have stated, that the educational way is probably the most practical, as you can get a residency visa based on attending school (not necessarily a graduation, I know plenty of people that initially came to study the language, and that would qualify you for such visas), and subsequently after living there for a while follow the normal paths towards long-term residency. As far as I'm aware, the Netherlands and Germany are destinations that have reasonably well-understood processes for immigration and a significant technical market. Both of these countries also have the advantage that you can mostly live your life in English – albeit you should of course strive to learn the local language if you intend to settle there. For Germany specifically, there's been a recent reform in the laws which give you a very fast track even towards German citizenship, which then would allow you to live and work anywhere in the EU. On the other hand, the Netherlands seem to have a more digitalized bureaucracy, which can be practical: in Germany everything is still done by snail mail. I've also heard good things about Switzerland, but there I have less personal experience. It is also not in the EU, for what it's worth. That being said, I'd point out that from a technology market perspective, it's certainly more difficult to find employment at the moment than it was perhaps 10 years ago. This comes and goes in cycles, so I'm saying that so you don't get discouraged if it takes long and requires applying to hundreds of positions: that's the case even for us natives. There's geopolitical and macroeconomic reasons for that, interest rates, etc. I wish you the best of luck! P.S. Of course, if you're so inclined, you might want to be aware that Svalbard has no specific visa requirements for residence. You could conceptually move there tomorrow, as long as you're allowed to transit through Norway, which assuming you hold a US passport shouldn't be a problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard However that place is certainly... not for everyone :-) P.P.S. On a more serious note, and it's of course not the EU, but Australia has very friendly immigration paths and I personally know multiple people who were able to move there, quickly obtain work in technology, and two of them actually obtained Australian citizenship by now.
q3k 1y ago
"expat" means "immigrant" but it's used by people who believe they are somehow above others
- msgodel 1y ago
  One country's immigrant is another country's emigrant.
- dachworker 1y ago
  No expat means expat and immigrant means immigrant. Immigrant implies that the intention is to settle in the host country, whereas expat implies that the reason for staying is temporary and hence the intention is not to stay permanently. For example, if I am doing a PhD in France, with no intention of staying in France afterwards, wouldn't it be rather inaccurate to call myself an immigrant to France?
  - rkomorn 1y ago
    You are not an expat in the country you are currently in. You are an expat in the country you left. If you're in a foreign country, you're either an immigrant (as a generic term) or, if you want to get pedantic, you can use whatever more apt definition they have (visitor, migrant worker, non-immigrant, etc).
    - jltsiren 1y ago
      You are an emigrant in the country you left. Immigrants and expats are overlapping terms, but there are some differences in common usage. An immigrant may intend to stay in the host country permanently and make it their new home, while an expat just happens to live there for the moment, often for a specific purpose. Expats are often more privileged than immigrants. An immigrant may seek to integrate into the society and the culture, while expats are more likely to have a purely transactional relationship with the host country.
      - rkomorn 1y ago

What do you mean with expat? You'd like to get an employer in the US that sends you to work in the EU on their behalf?

by elros 1y ago

What do you mean with expat? You'd like to get an employer in the US that sends you to work in the EU on their behalf?

Expat to mean residence in a non-US country. So it would mean an offer from an EU-based company to either sponsor a residence visa or one that qualifies for Blue Card. Either way, an offer is needed in the EU.

elros 1y ago
Oh, I see, you'd like to immigrate to Europe. In that case, I'd suggest looking at the multiple options for immigrant visas, the rules for which vary country by country. I believe, as others have stated, that the educational way is probably the most practical, as you can get a residency visa based on attending school (not necessarily a graduation, I know plenty of people that initially came to study the language, and that would qualify you for such visas), and subsequently after living there for a while follow the normal paths towards long-term residency. As far as I'm aware, the Netherlands and Germany are destinations that have reasonably well-understood processes for immigration and a significant technical market. Both of these countries also have the advantage that you can mostly live your life in English – albeit you should of course strive to learn the local language if you intend to settle there. For Germany specifically, there's been a recent reform in the laws which give you a very fast track even towards German citizenship, which then would allow you to live and work anywhere in the EU. On the other hand, the Netherlands seem to have a more digitalized bureaucracy, which can be practical: in Germany everything is still done by snail mail. I've also heard good things about Switzerland, but there I have less personal experience. It is also not in the EU, for what it's worth. That being said, I'd point out that from a technology market perspective, it's certainly more difficult to find employment at the moment than it was perhaps 10 years ago. This comes and goes in cycles, so I'm saying that so you don't get discouraged if it takes long and requires applying to hundreds of positions: that's the case even for us natives. There's geopolitical and macroeconomic reasons for that, interest rates, etc. I wish you the best of luck! P.S. Of course, if you're so inclined, you might want to be aware that Svalbard has no specific visa requirements for residence. You could conceptually move there tomorrow, as long as you're allowed to transit through Norway, which assuming you hold a US passport shouldn't be a problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard However that place is certainly... not for everyone :-) P.P.S. On a more serious note, and it's of course not the EU, but Australia has very friendly immigration paths and I personally know multiple people who were able to move there, quickly obtain work in technology, and two of them actually obtained Australian citizenship by now.

q3k 1y ago

"expat" means "immigrant" but it's used by people who believe they are somehow above others

msgodel 1y ago
One country's immigrant is another country's emigrant.
dachworker 1y ago
No expat means expat and immigrant means immigrant. Immigrant implies that the intention is to settle in the host country, whereas expat implies that the reason for staying is temporary and hence the intention is not to stay permanently. For example, if I am doing a PhD in France, with no intention of staying in France afterwards, wouldn't it be rather inaccurate to call myself an immigrant to France?
- rkomorn 1y ago
  You are not an expat in the country you are currently in. You are an expat in the country you left. If you're in a foreign country, you're either an immigrant (as a generic term) or, if you want to get pedantic, you can use whatever more apt definition they have (visitor, migrant worker, non-immigrant, etc).
  - jltsiren 1y ago
    You are an emigrant in the country you left. Immigrants and expats are overlapping terms, but there are some differences in common usage. An immigrant may intend to stay in the host country permanently and make it their new home, while an expat just happens to live there for the moment, often for a specific purpose. Expats are often more privileged than immigrants. An immigrant may seek to integrate into the society and the culture, while expats are more likely to have a purely transactional relationship with the host country.
    - rkomorn 1y ago